Background Awarness?

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Background Awarness?

Postby Uilium » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:40 am

I've never heard about it and I always hear you can't be aware of two things at the same time but when I meditate I become aware of a weak backround awareness. Is there such a thing or am I tripping?
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Re: Background Awarness?

Postby Goofaholix » Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:25 am

Uilium wrote:I've never heard about it and I always hear you can't be aware of two things at the same time but when I meditate I become aware of a weak backround awareness. Is there such a thing or am I tripping?


Awareness is constantly rapidly moving from object to object, in theory only one at a time, because of the speed it is effectively being aware of multiple objects at the same time and that is how it seems to us.
"Whenever we feel that we are definitely right, so much so that we refuse to open up to anything or anybody else, right there we are wrong. It becomes wrong view. When suffering arises, where does it arise from? The cause is wrong view, the fruit of that being suffering. If it was right view it wouldn't cause suffering." - Ajahn Chah
"Remember you dont meditate to get anything, but to get rid of things. We do it, not with desire, but with letting go. If you want anything, you wont find it." - Ajahn Chah
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Re: Background Awarness?

Postby Spiny Norman » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:58 am

Goofaholix wrote:
Uilium wrote:I've never heard about it and I always hear you can't be aware of two things at the same time but when I meditate I become aware of a weak backround awareness. Is there such a thing or am I tripping?


Awareness is constantly rapidly moving from object to object, in theory only one at a time, because of the speed it is effectively being aware of multiple objects at the same time and that is how it seems to us.


The other explanation is that there is an "awareness gradient" - we are more aware of objects at the centre of our attention than of objects at the periphery of our attention. So for example while I'm typing this I'm more aware of the text on this screen than of the room I'm in - the "background".
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Re: Background Awarness?

Postby pulga » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:30 pm

Uilium wrote:I've never heard about it and I always hear you can't be aware of two things at the same time but when I meditate I become aware of a weak backround awareness. Is there such a thing or am I tripping?


Much of Ven. Ñanavira's thinking is based upon this aspect of experience.


Real = {Present ...........Imaginary = {Absent
.........{Central ............................ {Peripheral
.........{Actual .,,,,,,,..................... {Possible

(The disjunctions 'central/peripheral' and 'actual/possible' [or 'certain/possible'] represent two slightly different aspects of the more general 'present/absent': the former is as it is in strict reflexion, the latter is as it is in abstract judgement or discursive reflection—see MANO [b].) Although, relative to the imaginary of mental experience, five-base experience is real, yet, relative to what is central in a given field of five-base experience, whatever is peripheral in that field is already beginning to partake of the nature of the imaginary. In general, the further removed a thing is from the centre of consciousness the less real it is, and therefore the more imaginary. In mental experience proper, however, where there is more or less explicit withdrawal of attention from reality (see MANO), what is central in the field is, precisely, an image (which may be plural), with more imaginary images in the periphery. (Shorter Note on Náma)
"...abstraction is illusory: abstraction is a discursive escape from the singularity of the real to the plurality of the imaginary—it is not an escape from the concrete." Ven. Ñanavira
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