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Nama-rupa Confusion - Dhamma Wheel

Nama-rupa Confusion

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Uilium
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Nama-rupa Confusion

Postby Uilium » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:30 pm

Why do I hear namarupa means "name & form" or "mind&form(body)? How does name relate to mind here? Something about the consepts mind gives objects? I have confusion here...Perhaps I have realized it through experience but have not realized it intellectually yet? Is that possible?

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polarbear101
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Re: Nama-rupa Confusion

Postby polarbear101 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:30 pm

"I don't envision a single thing that, when developed & cultivated, leads to such great benefit as the mind. The mind, when developed & cultivated, leads to great benefit."

"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."

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Re: Nama-rupa Confusion

Postby retrofuturist » Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:34 pm

Greetings Uilium,

You've asked a tricky, yet important question... there are two main interpretations of nama-rupa - each with vastly different connotations.

For the phenomenological "name and form" interpretation, I recommend the writings of Bhikkhu Nanananda, Nanavira, and the sutta quoted above by Polar Buddha.

For the ontological "mentality and materiality" interpretation, well... I'll let someone who subscribes to that interpretation recommend you something. :)

Metta,
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SDC
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Re: Nama-rupa Confusion

Postby SDC » Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:55 pm



Skip to 6:58 in this talk.

I hope this helps. :smile:

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polarbear101
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Re: Nama-rupa Confusion

Postby polarbear101 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:05 pm

"I don't envision a single thing that, when developed & cultivated, leads to such great benefit as the mind. The mind, when developed & cultivated, leads to great benefit."

"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."

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Re: Nama-rupa Confusion

Postby SarathW » Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:58 am

“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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Re: Nama-rupa Confusion

Postby Sylvester » Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:15 am


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Re: Nama-rupa Confusion

Postby SarathW » Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:40 am

“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”


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