mindfulness of breathing

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mindfulness of breathing

Postby Gena1480 » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:03 am

looks like i practice mindfulness of breathing
and mindfulness of body
and regarding noting
only after you breath you discern or note
not before you breath or take a step
only after you did any-kind of action, you remember what action you done.
because i was doing it wrong, noting before.
like for example raising your foot, don't note, before you raise your foot only after.
it is after you raise you foot, you note and eventually let go of noting
and just remember what has just happen, what action you have done by body or breath
if you want to look for confirmation of this
it is in the sutta on mindfulness of breathing
he breathes in long and then discerns (i am breathing in long)noting
it is your decision when to let go of noting and just remember.
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Re: mindfulness of breathing

Postby Spiny Norman » Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:23 pm

Gena1480 wrote:...he breathes in long and then discerns (i am breathing in long)noting


But the sutta text doesn't include the word "then" - doesn't this suggest that noting is just simultaneous with experience?
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Re: mindfulness of breathing

Postby Gena1480 » Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:33 am

you can take out noting.
but there are many who follow the noting
so they can use noting
to say abandon noting right away
that would turn many away
noting or not
it for those to see wrong mindfulness
by memorizing first, the noting verbs and then apply it before you take a step
for example before you take a step, you note walking and then taking a step
that is wrong.
only after you take a step , you note.
only after you take action , you note.
it is a different memory fiction.
for example active noting is good for restraining senses, when they are wild.
noting is helper, when you need it, use it
when you don't need it don't use it.
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Re: mindfulness of breathing

Postby Spiny Norman » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:23 am

Gena1480 wrote:for example before you take a step, you note walking and then taking a step
that is wrong.


Yes, noting something before experiencing it doesn't seem right. Though for an ongoing activity like walking I think that noting / awareness can be more or less simultaneous with experience.
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