The suttas qualify as a voice/voices of another/others, right?Sylvester wrote:Hi Dave
I should explain my resort to AN 2.126 against a liberal reading of AN 3.65.
It would be a "gamble", if we discounted the voice of another as a necessary condition. I take the more conservative reading of the meaning of "condition" (paccaya) in AN 2.126 to mean a necessary condition, rather than a sufficient condition, for Stream Entry. As a necessary condition, the presence of the Buddha's voice is no guarantee that the auditor would make the breakthrough to the Dhamma.
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danieLion wrote:The suttas qualify as a voice/voices of another/others, right?Sylvester wrote:Hi Dave
I should explain my resort to AN 2.126 against a liberal reading of AN 3.65.
It would be a "gamble", if we discounted the voice of another as a necessary condition. I take the more conservative reading of the meaning of "condition" (paccaya) in AN 2.126 to mean a necessary condition, rather than a sufficient condition, for Stream Entry. As a necessary condition, the presence of the Buddha's voice is no guarantee that the auditor would make the breakthrough to the Dhamma.
Yes, I believe so.
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Then I think we're of one accord--or close enough.Sylvester wrote:danieLion wrote:The suttas qualify as a voice/voices of another/others, right?Sylvester wrote:Hi Dave
I should explain my resort to AN 2.126 against a liberal reading of AN 3.65.
It would be a "gamble", if we discounted the voice of another as a necessary condition. I take the more conservative reading of the meaning of "condition" (paccaya) in AN 2.126 to mean a necessary condition, rather than a sufficient condition, for Stream Entry. As a necessary condition, the presence of the Buddha's voice is no guarantee that the auditor would make the breakthrough to the Dhamma.
Yes, I believe so.
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danieLion wrote:"In early Buddhist mediation theory, faith," he says, "is not what's required to overcome doubt, but rather investigation" (41:07-41:23).
Unfortunately, even some very highly developed meditation teachers don't seem to have understood this. Fortunately, some others did.
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