Snp 4.10 Purabheda Sutta

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Re: Snp 4.10 Purabheda Sutta

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emulation perhaps?
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jcsuperstar wrote:emulation perhaps?
Emulation is faking, isn't it?
Like an actor playing as Jesus in a documentary film? :rolleye:

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no that would be imitation
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dhamma_spoon wrote:
jcsuperstar wrote:emulation perhaps?
Emulation is faking, isn't it?
Like an actor playing as Jesus in a documentary film? :rolleye:

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Liberation is the inevitable fruit of the path and is bound to blossom forth when there is steady and persistent practice. The only requirements for reaching the final goal are two: to start and to continue. If these requirements are met there is no doubt the goal will be attained. This is the Dhamma, the undeviating law.

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bodom wrote:
dhamma_spoon wrote:
jcsuperstar wrote:emulation perhaps?
Emulation is faking, isn't it?
Like an actor playing as Jesus in a documentary film? :rolleye:

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:anjali:
Dear Boredom, -

Faking is on the opposite side of truth/reality. Failure to see the truth from the very beginning never takes you back to reality.
How would you fake the first jhana, for example? :juggling:

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Its a 12 step slogan. And sorry for being so boring lol.

:anjali:
Liberation is the inevitable fruit of the path and is bound to blossom forth when there is steady and persistent practice. The only requirements for reaching the final goal are two: to start and to continue. If these requirements are met there is no doubt the goal will be attained. This is the Dhamma, the undeviating law.

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bodom wrote:Its a 12 step slogan. And sorry for being so boring lol.

:anjali:
Well, boring means making a hole -- so I hope that hole leads us somewhere! :stirthepot:
Let's start with Step 1, please. How does the slogan work?

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Well step 1 my name is BODOM not boredom or boring.

Step 2 read this short article:

Fake it till you make it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_it_till_you_make_it" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:anjali:
Liberation is the inevitable fruit of the path and is bound to blossom forth when there is steady and persistent practice. The only requirements for reaching the final goal are two: to start and to continue. If these requirements are met there is no doubt the goal will be attained. This is the Dhamma, the undeviating law.

- BB
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bodom wrote:Well step 1 my name is BODOM not boredom or boring.

Step 2 read this short article:

Fake it till you make it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_it_till_you_make_it" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:anjali:
Okay, okay, bodom. You don't like my joke, so I will not call you Boredom again. :weep:
The article "Fake it .." is for uninstructed puthujjanas (worldlings) who enjoy delusion and pretending.
The article's idea is "to go through the routines of life as if one were enjoying them, despite the fact that initially it feels forced, and continue doing this until the happiness becomes real".
What they think is a "real happiness" is deluded because its origin is faked -- they do not have truths to begin with.
Only "seeing and knowing things the way they really are" leads to real happiness, according to our Teacher -- the Buddha.

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Im not sure why you seem to think I am endorsing this type of practice over the practice as taught by the Buddha. :shrug:
I made a generalised statement. It was not meant to be the final word on anything. I was going off of JC's post and posted something I thought was relevant to the direction the thread was taking. You asked for info regarding the phrase so I posted a link. I didn't write it nor do I adhere to it.

:anjali:
Liberation is the inevitable fruit of the path and is bound to blossom forth when there is steady and persistent practice. The only requirements for reaching the final goal are two: to start and to continue. If these requirements are met there is no doubt the goal will be attained. This is the Dhamma, the undeviating law.

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bodom wrote:Im not sure why you seem to think I am endorsing this type of practice over the practice as taught by the Buddha. :shrug:
I made a generalised statement. It was not meant to be the final word on anything. I was going off of JC's post and posted something I thought was relevant to the direction the thread was taking. You asked for info regarding the phrase so I posted a link. I didn't write it nor do I adhere to it.

:anjali:
Thank you, Bodom, for the clarification. No, I did not think you chose that wrong "practice" over the Buddh's Teachings.
Let's drop the issue for now. My apology for mishandling it. :juggling:

Truly yours,

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No apologies necessary. :toast:

:anjali:
Liberation is the inevitable fruit of the path and is bound to blossom forth when there is steady and persistent practice. The only requirements for reaching the final goal are two: to start and to continue. If these requirements are met there is no doubt the goal will be attained. This is the Dhamma, the undeviating law.

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bodom wrote:No apologies necessary. :toast:

:anjali:
Thank you for the letting go! :hug:


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There is said in the text:
Not in hopes of material gain
does he take on the training;
when without material gain
he isn't upset.
... he isn't upset. But in this context, should we understand money as a difficulty that can damage to our spiritual development? until we "aren't upset" without coins...
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Dharma Atma wrote:There is said in the text:
Not in hopes of material gain
does he take on the training;
when without material gain
he isn't upset.
... he isn't upset. But in this context, should we understand money as a difficulty that can damage to our spiritual development? until we "aren't upset" without coins...
Hi, Dharma Atma -

[Ha ha ! That is pretty amusing.]

It is true that 100% of householders [worldling, puthujjana] who are without "coins" (and bills, or a fat checkbook) are easily upset. But in the sutta context, as I understand it, the term 'material gain' means monk robe, alms food, medicine and other accessories that ease the monkhood difficulties.

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