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MN 21. Kakacūpama Sutta

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MN 21. Kakacūpama Sutta

Postby jcsuperstar » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:00 am

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the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: MN 21. Kakacūpama Sutta

Postby Branko » Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:19 pm

I'm not quite sure I understand this passage:
"I don't call a monk easy to admonish if he is easy to admonish and makes himself easy to admonish only by reason of robes, almsfood, lodging, & medicinal requisites for curing the sick. Why is that? Because if he doesn't get robes, almsfood, lodging, & medicinal requisites for curing the sick, then he isn't easy to admonish and doesn't make himself easy to admonish. But if a monk is easy to admonish and makes himself easy to admonish purely out of esteem for the Dhamma, respect for the Dhamma, reverence for the Dhamma, then I call him easy to admonish. Thus, monks, you should train yourselves: 'We will be easy to admonish and make ourselves easy to admonish purely out of esteem for the Dhamma, respect for the Dhamma, reverence for the Dhamma.' That's how you should train yourselves."

Key term is admonish, which I understand as warn, advise, counsel, criticize. But still can't extract the meaning in the context of the sutta.
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Re: MN 21. Kakacūpama Sutta

Postby mikenz66 » Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:31 pm

I presume it's talking about someone who becomes a monk just to get fed, etc, so is only agreeing with his teachers to keep up the pretence, out of fear of losing his free meals, rather than because he really respects the Dhamma.

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Re: MN 21. Kakacūpama Sutta

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Re: MN 21. Kakacūpama Sutta

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:10 pm

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