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Commentary on SN12.20 (Paccayasutta)

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Commentary on SN12.20 (Paccayasutta)

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Re: Commentary on SN12.20 (Paccayasutta)

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Re: Commentary on SN12.20 (Paccayasutta)

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See this thread:
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Re: Commentary on SN12.20 (Paccayasutta)

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Re: Commentary on SN12.20 (Paccayasutta)

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Re: Commentary on SN12.20 (Paccayasutta)

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The suttas aren't always straightforward or obvious, especially to us modern readers. See a simple example .

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Re: Commentary on SN12.20 (Paccayasutta)

Postby Javi » Thu Dec 29, 2016 2:57 pm

With the commentary it seems to make sense to me. The "law" of patticasamuppada is just something that can be said to be stable.

Of course you wouldn't say that that "law" is some kind of ontological thing, just like you wouldn't say that the laws of physics are some ontological existing thing. It's just that the patterns of causality are repeatedly observed to be stable. You drop a ball again and again and it falls. You observe death again and again and it is conditioned by birth.
Vayadhammā saṅkhārā appamādena sampādethā — All things decay and disappoint, it is through vigilance that you succeed — Mahāparinibbāna Sutta

Tārakā timiraṃ dīpo māyāvaśyāya budbudaḥ supinaṃ vidyud abhraṃ ca evaṃ draṣṭavya saṃskṛtam — A shooting star, a clouding of the sight, a lamp, An illusion, a drop of dew, a bubble, A dream, a lightning’s flash, a thunder cloud — This is the way one should see the conditioned — Vajracchedikā Prajñāpāramitā

I have seen all things that are done under the sun, and behold, all is vanity and a chase after wind — Ecclesiastes 1.14

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Re: Commentary on SN12.20 (Paccayasutta)

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The non-doing of any evil,
The performance of what's skillful,
The cleansing of one's own mind:
This is the Buddhas' teaching.

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Re: Commentary on SN12.20 (Paccayasutta)

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The non-doing of any evil,
The performance of what's skillful,
The cleansing of one's own mind:
This is the Buddhas' teaching.

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Re: Commentary on SN12.20 (Paccayasutta)

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Above message maybe out of date. Latest update will be in massage's link.
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Tipitaka memorization is a rule of monks. It isn't just a choice. They must done it.
bahussuto nāma tividho hoti – nissayamuccanako, parisupaṭṭhāpako, bhikkhunovādakoti.

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Re: Commentary on SN12.20 (Paccayasutta)

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Above message maybe out of date. Latest update will be in massage's link.
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Tipitaka memorization is a rule of monks. It isn't just a choice. They must done it.
bahussuto nāma tividho hoti – nissayamuccanako, parisupaṭṭhāpako, bhikkhunovādakoti.


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