reading the future

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dharma111
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What does buddhist or monk think about future reading?Do the believed in palm reading,fate,astrology......What are their opinion toward those things? :buddha1:
Buddha:work out your own salvation.Do not depend on other


I am of the nature to grow old.
There is no way to escape growing old.
I am of the nature to have ill-health.
There is no way to escape having ill-health.

I am of the nature to die.
There is no way to escape death.

All that is dear to me and everyone I love
are of the nature to change.

There is no way to escape being separated from them.
My actions are my only true belongings.

I cannot escape the consequences of my actions.
My actions are the ground on which I stand.

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Hello dharma111,
What does buddhist or monk think about future reading?Do the believed in palm reading,fate,astrology......What are their opinion toward those things?
Buddhist monks properly observing the Vinaya (Rules for Bhikkhus)do not have anything to do with them:

On page 150 of The Buddhist Monastic Code - The Patimokkha Rules
Translated & Explained by Thanissaro Bhikkhu - (Geoffrey DeGraff)

The Cullavagga, in a section that begins with the same origin story as the one
for this rule (Cv.I.13-16), treats the banishment transaction in full detail, saying
that a Community of bhikkhus, if it sees fit, has the authority to perform a
banishment transaction against a bhikkhu with any of the following qualities:
1) to 8) (various qualities listed - removed from post for conciseness - can read at link below)

9) He practices wrong modes of livelihood.
This last category includes such practices as:
a) running messages and errands for kings, ministers of state, householders,
etc. A modern example would be participating in political campaigns.
b) scheming, talking, hinting, belittling others for the sake of material gain,
pursuing gain with gain (giving items of small value in hopes of receiving items
of larger value in return, making investments in hopes of profit, offering
material incentives to those who make donations). (For a full discussion of these
practices, see Visuddhimagga I.61-82.)
c) Practicing worldly arts, e.g., medicine, fortune telling, astrology, exorcism,
reciting charms, casting spells, performing ceremonies to counteract the
influence of the stars, determining propitious sites, setting auspicious dates (for
weddings, etc.), interpreting oracles, auguries, or dreams, or—in the words of
the Vibhaºga to the Bhikkhunıs’ Pc 49 & 50—engaging in any art that is “external
and unconnected with the goal.” …..

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... o/bmc1.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Chris
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dharma111 wrote:What does buddhist or monk think about future reading?Do the believed in palm reading,fate,astrology......What are their opinion toward those things? :buddha1:
I believe in future reading. However, it is rare to find the person who can do it.

The great abbot of Nalanda university, once he walked and see the palm of a child. He predict that he will become a king when he was adult. Then, it is true, that child become the king. Afterwards, this great Nalanda abbot wrote a teaching for him called 'A Letter to a Friend'.

Siddharta Gautama life is also an example. When he was born, he was predicted whether he will become a great king or 'buddha'.
I am not here nor there.
I am not right nor wrong.
I do not exist neither non-exist.
I am not I nor non-I.
I am not in samsara nor nirvana.
To All Buddhas, I bow down for the teaching of emptiness. Thank You!
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See: The Great Section on Virtue & Divination and Dreams
Siddharta Gautama life is also an example. When he was born, he was predicted whether he will become a great king or 'buddha'.
That was the work of Asita the Seer, a well known non Buddhist hermit ascetic sage and seer of the Buddha's time..Nalaka Sutta
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