the great rebirth debate

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Re: the great rebirth debate

Postby Spiny Norman » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:56 pm

chownah wrote:
Spiny Norman wrote:Maybe his enlightenment was a hallucination too. ;)


I think it is reasonable if you want to consider this too, but it is not so directly on topic as considering his rebirth memories.
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I think it's fine to question these things, and the authenticity of the suttas, etc, what bemuses me is how selective people can be about which bits they question.
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Re: the great rebirth debate

Postby visitin » Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:52 pm

Spiny Norman wrote:
chownah wrote:It seems that the Buddha only slept a couple of hours a night so I think it is reasonable to at least consider the possibility that his rebirth memories might be hallucinations.
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Maybe his enlightenment was a hallucination too. ;)


Agreed! Instructions provided in "Aparihani Sutta", if followed earnestly, will induce such hallucinations.

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html
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Re: the great rebirth debate

Postby chownah » Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:07 pm

Spiny Norman wrote:
chownah wrote:
Spiny Norman wrote:Maybe his enlightenment was a hallucination too. ;)


I think it is reasonable if you want to consider this too, but it is not so directly on topic as considering his rebirth memories.
chownah


I think it's fine to question these things, and the authenticity of the suttas, etc, what bemuses me is how selective people can be about which bits they question.

Yeah, I know what you are saying......personally, I question all of it from time to time.
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Re: the great rebirth debate

Postby Mkoll » Fri Feb 21, 2014 5:27 pm

visitin wrote:
Spiny Norman wrote:
chownah wrote:It seems that the Buddha only slept a couple of hours a night so I think it is reasonable to at least consider the possibility that his rebirth memories might be hallucinations.
trollnah


Maybe his enlightenment was a hallucination too. ;)


Agreed! Instructions provided in "Aparihani Sutta", if followed earnestly, will induce such hallucinations.

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

Now, I know I'm unclear in what you're trying to say. :tongue:

Can you expand on that claim please?
When this is, that is.
From the arising of this comes the arising of that.
When this isn't, that isn't.
From the cessation of this comes the cessation of that.
-SN 12.61

Ex nihilo nihil fit.

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