the great rebirth debate

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Re: the great rebirth debate

Postby Spiny O'Norman » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:55 am

Even if it was proved that rebirth did not exist and there was only this one life, I would still carry on meditating and doing Buddhist practice - because the possibility of seeing things as really are is just amazing - and the journey of discovery is fascinating and rewarding.
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Postby clw_uk » Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:47 am

Can someone delete this, it got copied twice for some reason
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Re: the great rebirth debate

Postby Pannapetar » Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:03 am

I have difficulties to see what you are arguing here and to what conclusion the quotations are supposed to lead. Could you perhaps put that into a more compact format?

If you argue that rebirth is not to be understood as continuing after death and being born again into samsara, then the entire Buddhist doctrine collapses. The four noble truths, the eightfold path, the codependent origination, all that would be useless and contrived, because you can simply end suffering right now by jumping off the next building.

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Re: the great rebirth debate

Postby acinteyyo » Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:50 am

Thag 1.20. Ajita - I do not fear death; nor do I long for life. I’ll lay down this body, aware and mindful.

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Re: the great rebirth debate

Postby Ben » Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:03 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: the great rebirth debate

Postby Pannapetar » Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:18 am

clw_uk,

It is clear to me that you speak from a position of opinion and I am not very interested in "bookish" positions. I've had personal experiences which made it clear to me that you and I continue. Since I can't prove it to you, I suggest we leave it at that.

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Re: the great rebirth debate

Postby Individual » Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:24 pm

The best things in life aren't things.


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Re: the great rebirth debate

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The best things in life aren't things.


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Re: the great rebirth debate

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