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Buddhist (& Sarvāstivāda?) Metaphysics

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Buddhist (& Sarvāstivāda?) Metaphysics

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Re: Buddhists Metaphysics

Postby santa100 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:49 pm

That's Cheontae's doctrine. More info about it (descendant of school) . Any "Kosher" Dhamma for Theravadins should be pretty straightforward: the proof of the pudding is in the eating..

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Re: Buddhists Metaphysics

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Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
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Re: Buddhists Metaphysics

Postby Mkoll » Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:19 am

So putting that together, do we get "stable truth" or "stable reality"? Or what would you call it?
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
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Re: Buddhists Metaphysics

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So "things as they are according to reality"?

What do you think?
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Re: Buddhists Metaphysics

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Re: Buddhists Metaphysics

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Vayadhammā saṅkhārā appamādena sampādethā — All things decay and disappoint, it is through vigilance that you succeed — Mahāparinibbāna Sutta

Tārakā timiraṃ dīpo māyāvaśyāya budbudaḥ supinaṃ vidyud abhraṃ ca evaṃ draṣṭavya saṃskṛtam — A shooting star, a clouding of the sight, a lamp, An illusion, a drop of dew, a bubble, A dream, a lightning’s flash, a thunder cloud — This is the way one should see the conditioned — Vajracchedikā Prajñāpāramitā

I have seen all things that are done under the sun, and behold, all is vanity and a chase after wind — Ecclesiastes 1.14

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Re: Buddhists Metaphysics

Postby Javi » Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:03 am

Ultimately, metaphysics is a broad field with different topics, so if one were to say that the Buddha rejected all of metaphysics, I think that would be somewhat off the mark, as he is concerned with certain questions which might be termed metaphysical - depending on what definition you are using.

However, I think that it is fair to say he rejected quite a number of metaphysical views and taught that one should put aside and not bother with many other metaphysical questions.

So you're just going to have to be a bit more detailed in what you're trying to say here
Vayadhammā saṅkhārā appamādena sampādethā — All things decay and disappoint, it is through vigilance that you succeed — Mahāparinibbāna Sutta

Tārakā timiraṃ dīpo māyāvaśyāya budbudaḥ supinaṃ vidyud abhraṃ ca evaṃ draṣṭavya saṃskṛtam — A shooting star, a clouding of the sight, a lamp, An illusion, a drop of dew, a bubble, A dream, a lightning’s flash, a thunder cloud — This is the way one should see the conditioned — Vajracchedikā Prajñāpāramitā

I have seen all things that are done under the sun, and behold, all is vanity and a chase after wind — Ecclesiastes 1.14

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Re: Buddhists Metaphysics

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Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
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