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Soul theories and the Dhamma

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Re: Soul theories and the Dhamma

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Re: Soul theories and the Dhamma

Postby mikenz66 » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:57 pm

Probably "mindstream" is more of a commentarial term, which can certainly be found in texts such as:
A Comprehensive Manual of the Abhidhamma. viewtopic.php?f=18&t=826

However, in the suttas it certainly seems to be the case that individual "streams" of actions and results don't get mixed together - the kamma of one individual doesn't turn up as vipaka in another.

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Postby Twilight » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:01 pm

You'll have a better chance finding a moderate rebel in Ildib than finding a buddhist who ever changed his views. Views are there to be clung to. They are there to be defended with all one's might. Whatever clinging one will removed in regards to sense pleasures by practicing the path - that should be compensated with increased clinging to views. This is the fundamental balance of the noble 8thfold path. The yin and yang.
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Consciousness and no-self explained in drawings:
How stream entry is achieved. Mahasi / Zen understanding vs Sutta understanding:

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Re: Soul theories and the Dhamma

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Ananda Sutta: To Ananda
(On Self, No Self, and Not-self)

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Postby Twilight » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:59 am

You'll have a better chance finding a moderate rebel in Ildib than finding a buddhist who ever changed his views. Views are there to be clung to. They are there to be defended with all one's might. Whatever clinging one will removed in regards to sense pleasures by practicing the path - that should be compensated with increased clinging to views. This is the fundamental balance of the noble 8thfold path. The yin and yang.
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Consciousness and no-self explained in drawings:
How stream entry is achieved. Mahasi / Zen understanding vs Sutta understanding:

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Re: Soul theories and the Dhamma

Postby cappuccino » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:08 am

If I — being asked by Vacchagotta the wanderer if there is no self — were to answer that there is no self, that would be conforming with those brahmans & contemplatives who are exponents of annihilationism [the view that death is the annihilation of consciousness].

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Re: Soul theories and the Dhamma

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all phenomena are not-self

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Re: Soul theories and the Dhamma

Postby Twilight » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:49 am

You'll have a better chance finding a moderate rebel in Ildib than finding a buddhist who ever changed his views. Views are there to be clung to. They are there to be defended with all one's might. Whatever clinging one will removed in regards to sense pleasures by practicing the path - that should be compensated with increased clinging to views. This is the fundamental balance of the noble 8thfold path. The yin and yang.
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Consciousness and no-self explained in drawings:
How stream entry is achieved. Mahasi / Zen understanding vs Sutta understanding:

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Re: Soul theories and the Dhamma

Postby cappuccino » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:51 am

self, would be conforming with eternalism

no self, would be conforming with annihilationism

all phenomena are not-self


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