Let pet to kill?

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Some animals are hunter in born and so, hunts when hungry. Do you let them kill, especially when providing them food is hard?

What should be done?
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whynotme wrote:Some animals are hunter in born and so, hunts when hungry. Do you let them kill, especially when providing them food is hard?

What should be done?
Do you have this dilemma? If you have a pet and cannot provide food for it have you considered having it adopted?
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I came a cross a passage recently in a Book called "The Collected Teachings of Ajahn Chah - Vol. 1 Daily Life Practice"
To summarize the background, Ajahn Chah gave a Dhammatalk and was talking about morality when he said this:
"A cat catches mice, but we don't say it is doing evil, because it has no concepts of knowledge of good or bad, right or wrong. These beings are outside the circle of human beings. It is the animal realm. The Buddha pointed out that this group is just living according to the animal kind of kamma. Those who understand right and wrong, good and evil, are humans. The Buddha taught his Dhamma for humans."
I think we shouldn't concern ourselves too much with the kamma of other beings.
We should be mindful about our own kamma.

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As a hypothetical situation that is also true...

My sister had a cat. It was indoor-outdoor but mostly outdoor. It would bring her dead birds and small rodents from its adventures outdoors even though it always had access to cat food.

If she was a practicing Buddhist, what would be the right thing to do if she wanted to keep the cat? Should she have confined the cat indoors? Let things continue as they were?

In reality, she gave the cat to some nice people who are keeping it indoors.
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acinteyyo wrote: I think we shouldn't concern ourselves too much with the kamma of other beings.
We should be mindful about our own kamma.
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martinfrank wrote:
acinteyyo wrote: I think we shouldn't concern ourselves too much with the kamma of other beings.
We should be mindful about our own kamma.
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Not having a concepts of knowledge of good or bad, right or wrong will not help you to escape from Kamma.
If you hold a hot iron you will get burned whether you have a knowledge or not.
This is applicable to animal too I suppose.
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acinteyyo wrote:I came a cross a passage recently in a Book called "The Collected Teachings of Ajahn Chah - Vol. 1 Daily Life Practice"
To summarize the background, Ajahn Chah gave a Dhammatalk and was talking about morality when he said this:
"A cat catches mice, but we don't say it is doing evil, because it has no concepts of knowledge of good or bad, right or wrong. These beings are outside the circle of human beings. It is the animal realm. The Buddha pointed out that this group is just living according to the animal kind of kamma. Those who understand right and wrong, good and evil, are humans. The Buddha taught his Dhamma for humans."
I think we shouldn't concern ourselves too much with the kamma of other beings.
We should be mindful about our own kamma.

best wishes, acinteyyo
I think you answer is good, the problem of concerning my own kamma is that I let something to be killed, even when I could prevent it. So it is partly my responsibility, and so on my kamma.

What do you think? Is this the kamma of the pet owner?
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The kamma of the pet owner is he intention of the pet owner.
Was it your intention that those animals were killed? If not, then you do not reap the fruits of your pets actions.
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