binocular wrote:Because in time, sexual lust turns to boredom, contempt and lust for chocolate.kirk5a wrote: Where does he get "naturally empties lust from the minds of the couple" from?
Metta,
Retro.
binocular wrote:Because in time, sexual lust turns to boredom, contempt and lust for chocolate.kirk5a wrote: Where does he get "naturally empties lust from the minds of the couple" from?
It sounds like polygamy will further dissolve the self.Ben wrote: -Marriage is a vow to dissolve the self and become two.
Not if someone start to harass thy wife and being a patriarch is like reinforcing the ego itself. I was speaking on the behalf of the male counterpart.Ben wrote:-Marriage is a system in which you practice to love, care, respect your counterpart thus help dissolve EGO.
And those joy will turn to anxiety when something bad happen to the offspring or perhaps this will give more insights on the 4nt.Ben wrote:-Marriage brings a joy of creation of another life (offspring), watch them grow, take a form, experience working of Sanskaras and karma.
Nope. To ordain, you'd need to have your spouse's permission. And if the spouse is indeed trouble, they won't give that permission.Gaoxing wrote:But look at from another side. It depends on the woman you married. If she's nothing but trouble you could end up running for a monastery sooner than you wished for. That's a kind of vehicle isn't it?
The difference between "path" and "vehicle" here is that "marriage is a path" IMO would be interpreted as meaning that marriage is something that can eventually lead to Nibbana (as a path may eventually lead somewhere specific), whereas "marriage is a vehicle" would rather be interpreted as meaning that marriage would be something that will lead one all the way to Nibbana (as a vehicle is understood as something that leads one all the way to one's destination). So in your example, the correct conclusion would rather be "marriage is a kind of path", just like I said.Gaoxing wrote:But look at from another side. It depends on the woman you married. If she's nothing but trouble you could end up running for a monastery sooner than you wished for. That's a kind of vehicle isn't it?
I'll try to make more serious jokes in the future.Sekha wrote:The difference between "path" and "vehicle" here is that "marriage is a path" IMO would be interpreted as meaning that marriage is something that can eventually lead to Nibbana (as a path may eventually lead somewhere specific), whereas "marriage is a vehicle" would rather be interpreted as meaning that marriage would be something that will lead one all the way to Nibbana (as a vehicle is understood as something that leads one all the way to one's destination). So in your example, the correct conclusion would rather be "marriage is a kind of path", just like I said.Gaoxing wrote:But look at from another side. It depends on the woman you married. If she's nothing but trouble you could end up running for a monastery sooner than you wished for. That's a kind of vehicle isn't it?
Also, in your logic it looks very much like you equate running for a monastery and being secure on the path to Nibbana, which is an opinion that is widely spread in Asia and that makes itself happen to be false because monks are so inclined to think that going forth is by itself enough that they become heedless and actually stray from the path with painful future to be expected instead of Nibbana.
"I, too, monks, before my Awakening, when I was an unawakened bodhisatta, being subject myself to birth, sought what was likewise subject to birth. Being subject myself to aging... illness... death... sorrow... defilement, I sought [happiness in] what was likewise subject to illness... death... sorrow... defilement. The thought occurred to me, 'Why do I, being subject myself to birth, seek what is likewise subject to birth? Being subject myself to aging... illness... death... sorrow... defilement, why do I seek what is likewise subject to illness... death... sorrow... defilement? What if I, being subject myself to birth, seeing the drawbacks of birth, were to seek the unborn, unexcelled rest from the yoke: Unbinding? What if I, being subject myself to aging... illness... death... sorrow... defilement, seeing the drawbacks of aging... illness... death... sorrow... defilement, were to seek the aging-less, illness-less, deathless, sorrow-less,, unexcelled rest from the yoke: Unbinding?'
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html
lol ok, sutric reference?binocular wrote:Nope. To ordain, you'd need to have your spouse's permission. And if the spouse is indeed trouble, they won't give that permission.Gaoxing wrote:But look at from another side. It depends on the woman you married. If she's nothing but trouble you could end up running for a monastery sooner than you wished for. That's a kind of vehicle isn't it?
there's no holy sacrament of the legitimate institutionalization of buddhist church called marriage; there's however a LOT of ethics about marriage-like actions in buddhist sutras.Gaoxing wrote:I'll try to make more serious jokes in the future.Sekha wrote:(...)
Dammit! Ok, that clarifies the matter. Marriage = suffering.binocular wrote:Nope. To ordain, you'd need to have your spouse's permission. And if the spouse is indeed trouble, they won't give that permission.Gaoxing wrote:But look at from another side. It depends on the woman you married. If she's nothing but trouble you could end up running for a monastery sooner than you wished for. That's a kind of vehicle isn't it?
Yeah but as for the Game of Thrones thing, in some countries you'll have to get married every three or six months to avoid common law troubles.PadmaPhala wrote:there's no holy sacrament of the legitimate institutionalization of buddhist church called marriage; there's however a LOT of ethics about marriage-like actions in buddhist sutras.Gaoxing wrote:I'll try to make more serious jokes in the future.Sekha wrote:(...)
so, that means that a buddhist can (because it is really not relevant) marry under the catholic church (sneaky, there's lots of sexy <redacted> that are nominally catholics)...
...or marry under Game Of Thrones' Deities!!!