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The Ego

Postby Śūnyatā » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:21 pm

In your own words, how would you define "the ego" (sakkaya-ditthi)?

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Re: The Ego

Postby gendun » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:49 pm

A couple of points..it may not be useful to translate sakkya-ditthi as "ego".
There is a risk of confusion with western psychoanalytic models.
Secondly it might be useful to think of sakkya-ditthi not as a noun , not as a thing, but as a verb..an action.
Specifically as an act of identification with the kandhas/skandhas.
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Re: The Ego

Postby rachmiel » Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:04 pm

Ego: The web of interactive mind-based reflexes acquired from pre-lifetime (nature) and lifetime (nurture) experiences that, together, generate a sense of individual persistent identity.

Or: A bit of undigested beef.
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Re: The Ego

Postby m0rl0ck » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:13 pm

I would define it as an imaginary construct invented by western psychology. Freud, for gods sake, seriously?
"Even if you've read the whole Canon and can remember lots of teachings; even if you can explain them in poignant ways, with lots of people to respect you; even if you build a lot of monastery buildings, or can explain inconstancy, stress, and not-self in the most detailed fashion ... The only thing that serves your own true purpose is release from suffering.

"And you'll be able to gain release from suffering only when you know the one mind."

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Re: The Ego

Postby rachmiel » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:19 pm

> I would define it as an imaginary construct invented by western psychology.

An imaginary construct with a (faux) life of its own!
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Re: The Ego

Postby Cittasanto » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:41 pm

Śūnyatā wrote:In your own words, how would you define "the ego" (sakkaya-ditthi)?

Gratefully yours,
Śūnyatā

A combination of parts mistaken for something they are not.
This offering maybe right, or wrong, but it is one, the other, both, or neither!
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Re: The Ego

Postby Śūnyatā » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:34 am

rachmiel wrote:Or: A bit of undigested beef.

I love this analogy! Is this why self-view can give you a bad case of heartburn? :)
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Re: The Ego

Postby Jason » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:17 am

I tend to view our ego or sense of self as the product of a mental process that arises due to the presence of clinging (upadana) in the mind with regard to the five aggregates, a process that acts as a condition for the birth (jati) of the conceit 'I am,' the self-identification that designates a being (satta).
"Sabbe dhamma nalam abhinivesaya" (AN 7.58).

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