AN 11.13: Mahanama Sutta (six recollections)

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Re: AN 11.13: Mahanama Sutta (six recollections)

Postby rowyourboat » Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:25 pm

there is a sutta which talks of building parks and ponds which seem to generate merit for long periods. I always thought my monthly direct debit as something like that! it doesnt matter eventually- the whole point of dana for me atleast is to give rise to wholesome states of mind.
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Re: AN 11.13: Mahanama Sutta (six recollections)

Postby bodom » Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:27 pm

rowyourboat wrote:there is a sutta which talks of building parks and ponds which seem to generate merit for long periods. I always thought my monthly direct debit as something like that! it doesnt matter eventually- the whole point of dana for me atleast is to give rise to wholesome states of mind.


Cariyapitaka Atthakatha, translated by Bhikkhu Bodhi

The perfection of giving is to be practiced by benefiting beings in many ways — by relinquishing one's happiness, belongings, body and life to others, by dispelling their fear, and by instructing them in the Dhamma.

Herein, giving is threefold by way of the object to be given: the giving of material things (amisadana), the giving of fearlessness (abhayadana), and the giving of the Dhamma (dhammadana). Among these, the object to be given can be twofold: internal and external. The external gift is tenfold: food, drink, garments, vehicles, garlands, scents, unguents, bedding, dwellings, and lamps. These gifts, again, become manifold by analyzing each into its constituents, e.g., food into hard food, soft food, etc. The external gift can also become sixfold when analyzed by way of sense objects: visible forms, sounds, smells, tastes, tangibles, and non-sensory objects. The sense objects, such as visible forms, become manifold when analyzed into blue, etc. So too, the external gift is manifold by way of the divers valuables and belongings, such as gems, gold, silver, pearls, coral, etc.; fields, land, parks, etc.; slaves, cows, buffaloes, etc.

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Re: AN 11.13: Mahanama Sutta (six recollections)

Postby Dhammanando » Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:23 pm

Hi RYB,

rowyourboat wrote:there is a sutta which talks of building parks and ponds which seem to generate merit for long periods.


Even better than that...

    "Here, if a certain person, while giving a gift, or undertaking the precepts, or observing the uposatha, or setting out drinks and refreshments for the use of passing travellers, or beautifying the area around his home, or worshipping a cetiya, or adorning a cetiya with perfumes and garlands, or circumambulating a cetiya, or engaging in any wholesome kamma belonging to the three planes, does not do so for the sake of a fortunate destiny, or birth, or relinking, or becoming, or wandering in saṃsāra, or continuing in the cycle, then all of these actions tend to the sundering of bonds, and are inclining, tending and sloping towards Nibbāna."
    (Nidd.ii.424)

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Re: AN 11.13: Mahanama Sutta (six recollections)

Postby Cittasanto » Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:44 pm

Hi Dhammanando

Dhammanando wrote:Hi RYB,

rowyourboat wrote:there is a sutta which talks of building parks and ponds which seem to generate merit for long periods.


Even better than that...

    "Here, if a certain person, while giving a gift, or undertaking the precepts, or observing the uposatha, or setting out drinks and refreshments for the use of passing travellers, or beautifying the area around his home, or worshipping a cetiya, or adorning a cetiya with perfumes and garlands, or circumambulating a cetiya, or engaging in any wholesome kamma belonging to the three planes, does not do so for the sake of a fortunate destiny, or birth, or relinking, or becoming, or wandering in saṃsāra, or continuing in the cycle, then all of these actions tend to the sundering of bonds, and are inclining, tending and sloping towards Nibbāna."
    (Nidd.ii.424)

Best wishes,
Dhammanando Bhikkhu


what is a Cetiya?
and what does relinking mean?

Just wondering not come across those words/ideas before
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Re: AN 11.13: Mahanama Sutta (six recollections)

Postby Dhammanando » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:13 pm

Hi Manapa,

Manapa wrote:Hi Dhammanandowhat is a Cetiya?
and what does relinking mean?


A cetiya (Sanskrit caitya) is about the same as a stupa.

Relinking (paṭisandhi) is the abhidhammic term for the moment of rebirth.

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    “Who lives without reverence lives miserably.”
    Uruvela Sutta, A.ii.20

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Re: AN 11.13: Mahanama Sutta (six recollections)

Postby Cittasanto » Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:09 pm

Hi Bhante,
Dhammanando wrote:Hi Manapa,

Manapa wrote:Hi Dhammanandowhat is a Cetiya?
and what does relinking mean?


A cetiya (Sanskrit caitya) is about the same as a stupa.

Relinking (paṭisandhi) is the abhidhammic term for the moment of rebirth.

Best wishes,
Dhammanando Bhikkhu


Thanks
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Re: AN 11.13: Mahanama Sutta (six recollections)

Postby mettafuture » Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:48 am

I tend to reflect on one of the first 6 recollections daily. Today I contemplated the Devas by reading verses from the Devatāsaṃyutta and Devaputtasaṃyutta of the Saṃyutta Nikāya. I'm surprised The Recollections aren't talked about more considering they the original "meditation objects" prescribed to lay followers.
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Re: AN 11.13: Mahanama Sutta (six recollections)

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:07 pm

Greetings,

Thank you for bumping this topic and allowing me to recollect the recollections!

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Retro. :)
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Re: AN 11.13: Mahanama Sutta (six recollections)

Postby mettafuture » Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:51 am

retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,

Thank you for bumping this topic and allowing me to recollect the recollections!

:twothumbsup:

Metta,
Retro. :)

No problem.

:hello:

I was going to make a thread about the recollections, but I figured it might be best to just bump an existing one.
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Re: AN 11.13: Mahanama Sutta (six recollections)

Postby Richard » Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:02 pm

I also make use of the Recollections, especially the first. And I am glad when anyone brings them up, because they are roundly ignored by today's meditation industry. The sutta makes it clear that they are serious and useful subjects for meditation, and AN I.30 (or 1.296) says they can lead to enlightenment. There are probably not many who reflect on the devas, and I'm not sure how to go about that myself. But please keep exploring and share your experiences whenver you like.
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Re: AN 11.13: Mahanama Sutta (six recollections)

Postby retrofuturist » Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:56 pm

Greetings,

Richard wrote:There are probably not many who reflect on the devas, and I'm not sure how to go about that myself.

I'm not sure whether you do or not, but I think that if you didn't believe in devas to start with, or had doubts about their existence, it would be disingenuous and counter-productive to try that one. The recollections that resonate will most likely produce the results highlighted in the sutta.

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Retro. :)
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Whatever various forms of unease there are in the world, They originate founded in encumbering accumulation. (Pārāyanavagga)


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Re: AN 11.13: Mahanama Sutta (six recollections)

Postby rohana » Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:36 am

I used to do Buddhānussaṭi a while back. I basically skimmed through the Viṣhuddimagga instructions, which go into descriptions of nine qualities of the Buddha, and picked out "Arahatō" meaning "awakened, having destroyed all defilements". Buddhānussaṭi produces a wonderful sense of ṣaddhā and gladness. If it is not one's main practice, I believe traditionally it is recommended when one is feeling uninspired to practice. (Viṣhuddimagga mentions some more benefits, among which a sense of fearlessness was something I also found to be true.) In fact, assuming one is a Buddhist, I wonder if it makes a better entry point to meditation, rather than, say Ānāpānasaṭi - which I think is not the easiest to develop (at least in my experience).
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