Wat Dhammakaya

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Re: Wat Dhammakaya

Postby suriyopama » Thu May 19, 2016 2:33 am

samseva wrote:
suriyopama wrote:My Thai coworkers say that he is waiting for a new government to be established, and then use his powerful influences and money to skip justice. He has already done that in the past, during the government of Thaksin.

Thanks for the info. Let's hope things work out before a new government is established.


It could also be that they were intentionally using this case in order to instigate antagonism against the military junta. Dhammachayo would be the perfect martyr, and we all know that religion can be more vitriolic than nitroglycerine. Wat Dhammakaya is a stronghold for the red shirts movement, and religious stir can be used as a spark.

Initially, the DSI was calling Dhammachayo for a routine declaration. They were following the standard procedure that the law establishes. But it is his repeated refusal to declare what has caused all this mess. Perhaps, if he had testified on the first instance, he would have been declared innocent or the case would have been deferred. But now the DSI has no other option but to issue an arrest warrant, otherwise it would be failing to apply equal justice to everyone.

Dhammachayo is a self-confessed admirer of Hitler. He sustains that Hitler was intrinsically a good person, and that if the Nazis would have won WWII, today the world would be a better place to live. Dhammachayo struggles for power and his dream is that his cult dominates the world, and he means it. http://www.bangkokpost.com/print/491460/

Dhammakaya has been forging alliances with powerful and perilous organizations. eg: financing dangerous groups like Ashin Wirathu’s extremists.

There are Dhammakaya affiliates around the world starting to organize a defense of the Dhammakaya cause. At the Facebook of “International Affairs, Dhammakaya Foundation” there are videos of monks sending messages in solidarity with their colleagues in Thailand.
eg: Ven.Dr.Dhammapiya, Secretary General of Northeast India Buddhist Sangha Council, is saying: “The monks and the sangha in Thailand are not given freedom to participate in religious activities”. Perhaps he has been misinformed, but that is not true. In Thailand there is freedom for all religions.
https://www.facebook.com/dhammakayainter/?fref=nf
BTW: If you visit that Facebook page, don’t miss the pictures.
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Bangkok Post, 19 May 2016: “No ‘human shield’ for abbot”
Followers of embattled abbot Phra Dhammajayo confirm that there will be no "human shield" to protect the abbot if authorities are to carry out an arrest. But they are prepared to sue the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) for malfeasance in retaliation for the arrest warrant issued for the abbot of Wat Phra Dhammakaya. The DSI said it will grant bail to the abbot if he surrenders by May 26 …
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/978769/no-human-shield-for-abbot
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Re: Wat Dhammakaya

Postby samseva » Thu May 19, 2016 3:51 am

suriyopama wrote:https://www.facebook.com/dhammakayainter/?fref=nf
BTW: If you visit that Facebook page, don’t miss the pictures.

Dhammakaya so clearly screams grandiosity and power; the complete opposite of what Buddhism teaches.

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Re: Wat Dhammakaya

Postby suriyopama » Fri May 20, 2016 10:43 am

Dhammakaya has raised a petition to the White House to help their master Dhammachayo.

As I’ve said before, the Church of Scientology looks like amateurs when compared to the Dhammakaya Cult. Dhammakaya does not only aims for celebrities but for all kind of influential and powerful persons; from lawyers, doctors or the Supreme Patriarch, to politicians and the President of the United States. THE EMPIRE AIMS HIGH!

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https://www.facebook.com/WeLoveWatPhraDhammakaya072/photos/a.1391108784536175.1073741828.1391068027873584/1613036932343358/?type=3&theater

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Re: Wat Dhammakaya

Postby Mkoll » Fri May 20, 2016 10:28 pm

suriyopama wrote:As I’ve said before, the Church of Scientology looks like amateurs when compared to the Dhammakaya Cult. Dhammakaya does not only aims for celebrities but for all kind of influential and powerful persons; from lawyers, doctors or the Supreme Patriarch, to politicians and the President of the United States. THE EMPIRE AIMS HIGH!

Maybe in that regard, Dhammakaya has Scientology beat. But Scientology cannot be called amateurish. I'm watching a documentary called Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief that is about the life of its founder and the religion he founded, featuring interviews with former high-level members. From what I've read in this thread and now what I know of Scientology, I would be far more afraid to be on the bad side of Scientology than Dhammakaya.
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Re: Wat Dhammakaya

Postby identification » Sun May 22, 2016 8:16 pm

Can this thread possibly be a bit less one sided? Can practitioners in the Dhammakaya come in here and stop letting these people crap on the lineage?

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Re: Wat Dhammakaya

Postby samseva » Sun May 22, 2016 11:42 pm

identification wrote:Can this thread possibly be a bit less one sided? Can practitioners in the Dhammakaya come in here and stop letting these people crap on the lineage?

What lineage? Dhammakaya isn't in line with the teachings of Buddhism. In fact, most of what they teach goes completely against Buddhist teachings.

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Re: Wat Dhammakaya

Postby identification » Mon May 23, 2016 12:50 am

samseva wrote:
identification wrote:Can this thread possibly be a bit less one sided? Can practitioners in the Dhammakaya come in here and stop letting these people crap on the lineage?

What lineage? Dhammakaya isn't in line with the teachings of Buddhism. In fact, most of what they teach goes completely against Buddhist teachings.



News flash, there's more than one interpretation of the Buddha's teachings.

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Re: Wat Dhammakaya

Postby samseva » Mon May 23, 2016 3:11 am

identification wrote:
samseva wrote:
identification wrote:Can this thread possibly be a bit less one sided? Can practitioners in the Dhammakaya come in here and stop letting these people crap on the lineage?

What lineage? Dhammakaya isn't in line with the teachings of Buddhism. In fact, most of what they teach goes completely against Buddhist teachings.

News flash, there's more than one interpretation of the Buddha's teachings.

Sure, but when the values and teachings of sect are the complete opposite of the basic tenets of the teaching they say they follow, it is a whole different situation.

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Re: Wat Dhammakaya

Postby suriyopama » Mon May 23, 2016 3:16 am

DSI to check authenticity of abbot’s medical certificate

The Department of Special Investigation will meet on Monday to discuss the authenticity of a medical certificate provided by Wat Dhammakaya abbot Phra Dhammajayo as proof of his ailments after a Ratchaburi hospital confirmed it was not issued in its name. DSI director-general Paisit Wongmuang said on Sunday that DSI investigators would discuss the evidence presented by Wat Dhammakaya’s team of lawyers to the court to justify the abbot's request to defer a meeting with the DSI to acknowledge criminal charges on May 26.
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http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/983593/dsi-to-check-authenticity-of-abbot%E2%80%99s-medical-certificate

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Re: Wat Dhammakaya

Postby jameswang » Mon May 23, 2016 7:55 am

TRobinson465 wrote:what happened was somebody embezzled money and donated it to Dhammakaya as well as a bunch of other organizations.

Hmmm.... and he "donated" quite a lot, didn't he? What was the percentage that he kept?

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Re: Wat Dhammakaya

Postby identification » Mon May 23, 2016 6:27 pm

samseva wrote:Sure, but when the values and teachings of sect are the complete opposite of the basic tenets of the teaching they say they follow, it is a whole different situation.


What is one value and teaching of the sect that goes against the teachings they say they follow.

People say they only care about money. They could be using that money to help people.

"The leaders were prosecuted." Charges were dropped.

"The media says bad things about them." Tantric teachings have a history of suppression by the government. Have you ever wondered why Vajrayana or Shingon are secret? You can read more about this here https://meaningness.wordpress.com/2013/ ... vajrayana/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"At the same time, he vigorously suppressed Vajrayana. Partly this was to appease Western sensibilities, and partly it was to break the power of religious-political opposition to his authority. Vajrayana is a path to power, so Mongkut and his successors tried to eliminate it." "Other Theravadan countries followed Mongkut’s lead. Even into the 21st century, Tantric Theravada has been regarded as a political threat, and actively suppressed by governments. Partly this is by force, and partly by propaganda. Governments have advocated Hinayana as the clean, bright, modern Buddhism, and denigrated Tantra as corrupt, dark, and backward."

"they teach the true self." The Buddha taught the five aggregates aren't the self. The indestructible unborn primordial citta isn't the five aggregates. It is the creator of the five aggregates, and the nucleus of existence.

"Their teachings aren't in the Canon" Well if they were bluntly stated in the Canon they wouldn't be esoteric teachings aye?


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