Theravada Process of Brahmacariya

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Re: Theravada Process of Brahmacariya

Postby convivium » Wed May 19, 2010 10:13 am

Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php

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Re: Theravada Process of Brahmacariya

Postby convivium » Wed May 19, 2010 3:24 pm

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Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php

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Re: Theravada Process of Brahmacariya

Postby convivium » Wed May 19, 2010 7:16 pm

Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php

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Re: Theravada Process of Brahmacariya

Postby Agent » Wed May 19, 2010 9:14 pm

Vayadhammā saṅkhārā appamādena sampādethā.

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Re: Theravada Process of Brahmacariya

Postby rowyourboat » Wed May 19, 2010 9:54 pm

Hello convivium

Why do you assume that there is a link to jhana via some unknown but assumed 'sexual energy' or that jhana arises by it being suppressed?

Why do you assume that there is such a thing as sexual energy? (dont tell me it is 'common knowledge' :jumping: )

All these are ultimately assumptions- jhana arises by suppressing FIVE hindrances- not ONE. So if we are focused on finding links with sex- that is exactly the one we will be focusing on.

There is no need to jump to conclusions about unconscious process which may or may not be. It is easy to suppose that something exists- but a bit more difficult to stay with the idea that one simply doesnt know and there are many possibilities.

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Re: Theravada Process of Brahmacariya

Postby convivium » Wed May 19, 2010 10:18 pm

Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php

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Re: Theravada Process of Brahmacariya

Postby Agent » Thu May 20, 2010 1:31 am

Vayadhammā saṅkhārā appamādena sampādethā.

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Re: Theravada Process of Brahmacariya

Postby convivium » Thu May 20, 2010 5:02 am

Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php

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Re: Theravada Process of Brahmacariya

Postby Kenshou » Thu May 20, 2010 6:19 am

The fact remains that sex is but one among many potential opportunities for sense-clinging, and clinging to sense experience is not necessarily inherently sexual by any means.

What exactly are you trying to communicate, besides the fact that sexual issues can be a strong source of clinging, which is something that we all already know? It seemed to me that you were trying to reply to the bit you quoted from Agent, but it doesn't seem that you've done anything to refute or comment on it.

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Re: Theravada Process of Brahmacariya

Postby convivium » Thu May 20, 2010 7:48 am

Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php

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Re: Theravada Process of Brahmacariya

Postby PeterB » Thu May 20, 2010 7:53 am

yup sex is real bad..so none of us should do it and so the species will die out....end of problem.

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Re: Theravada Process of Brahmacariya

Postby cooran » Thu May 20, 2010 7:57 am

So... Peter... tell me, please. Does this mean you think rebirth only occurs as a human being?

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Re: Theravada Process of Brahmacariya

Postby convivium » Fri May 21, 2010 6:22 am

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Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php

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Re: Theravada Process of Brahmacariya

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Re: Theravada Process of Brahmacariya

Postby Agent » Fri May 21, 2010 1:45 pm

See the dhamma talk "In the Dead of Night" by Ajahn Chah starting on page 236 of .
Vayadhammā saṅkhārā appamādena sampādethā.

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Re: Theravada Process of Brahmacariya

Postby convivium » Sat May 22, 2010 6:59 am

So the main methods dealing with sexual suppression and desire are so far...
contemplation of loathsomeness/charnel ground
jhana
sense restraint
hard work/busy schedule/little sleep
one meal a day
not seeing women
the rest of the eightfold path...
Do many Therevada monastics & initiates have issues of sexual suppression? Are these approaches usually sufficient to renounce all forms of sexuality?
Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php

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Re: Theravada Process of Brahmacariya

Postby Cittasanto » Sat May 22, 2010 7:11 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.


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