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No Creator in Buddhism

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Re: No Creator in Buddhism

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Re: No Creator in Buddhism

Postby Mkoll » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:52 pm

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa

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Re: No Creator in Buddhism

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Re: No Creator in Buddhism

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Re: No Creator in Buddhism

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Re: No Creator in Buddhism

Postby paul » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:26 am

Only those things connected with the goal:

Once the Blessed One was staying at Kosambi in the simsapa (Dalbergia sisoo) forest. Then, picking up a few simsapa leaves with his hand, he asked the monks, "What do you think, monks: Which are more numerous, the few simsapa leaves in my hand or those overhead in the simsapa forest?"

"The leaves in the hand of the Blessed One are few in number, lord. Those overhead in the simsapa forest are more numerous."

"In the same way, monks, those things that I have known with direct knowledge but have not taught are far more numerous [than what I have taught]. And why haven't I taught them? Because they are not connected with the goal, do not relate to the rudiments of the holy life, and do not lead to disenchantment, to dispassion, to cessation, to calm, to direct knowledge, to self-awakening, to Unbinding. That is why I have not taught them.

"And what have I taught? 'This is stress... This is the origination of stress... This is the cessation of stress... This is the path of practice leading to the cessation of stress': This is what I have taught. And why have I taught these things? Because they are connected with the goal, relate to the rudiments of the holy life, and lead to disenchantment, to dispassion, to cessation, to calm, to direct knowledge, to self-awakening, to Unbinding. This is why I have taught them.

"Therefore your duty is the contemplation, 'This is stress... This is the origination of stress... This is the cessation of stress.' Your duty is the contemplation, 'This is the path of practice leading to the cessation of stress.'" --SN 56:31
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Re: No Creator in Buddhism

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Re: No Creator in Buddhism

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Re: No Creator in Buddhism

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Re: No Creator in Buddhism

Postby SarathW » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:46 am

[/quote]

In the molecules of the previous substance. A transformation of form occurs, not the popping of something previously non-existent into existence.[/quote]
So what you are saying is, when someone claps the sound was stored in the palms?[/quote]

Sound isn't a "thing" in the same way, but yes, the kinetic energy that makes the wave in the medium was there already.[/quote]

So you agree that wave is dependently originated?
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Re: No Creator in Buddhism

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Re: No Creator in Buddhism

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Re: No Creator in Buddhism

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“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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Re: No Creator in Buddhism

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Re: No Creator in Buddhism

Postby SarathW » Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:36 am

Thanks David B
Now what is the problem we try to solve here in this forum and what is your answer?
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Re: No Creator in Buddhism

Postby ganegaar » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:24 am

Sīlepatiṭṭhāya naro sapañño, cittaṃ paññañca bhāvayaṃ;
Ātāpī nipako bhikkhu, so imaṃ vijaṭaye jaṭanti.

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Re: No Creator in Buddhism

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Namo buddhaya

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Re: No Creator in Buddhism

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