greenjuice wrote:Are there any Theravadins, that is- people accepting the Tipitaka, but that don't follow the Mahavihara interpretation, but Jetavana or Abhayagiri?
Or are there people following the Mahasanghika/ Lokittaravada interpretation instead of the Sthaviravada one, and I'm not talking about Mahayana and those who accept extra sutras.
greenjuice wrote:I suppose there are no organisations following their teachings?
Also, are there any Buddhist teachers or groups that accept the Pali canon, without accepting the later Mahayana sutras, but do explicitly accept the doctrines associated with various mahayana schools like citta as the real self, and the notion of Buddha-nature/ eternal Buddha?
Dhammanando wrote:greenjuice wrote:I suppose there are no organisations following their teachings?
There used to be the Altbuddistische Gemeinde, founded by Georg Grimm in Utting am Ammersee. But it had already sunk into hebetude when I dropped by in 1991 while on my way to visit the concentration camp at Dachau. And now I've just learned from Google that it finally folded in 2002:
BlackBird wrote:I'm one of those non-mahaviharan Theravadans. No Abhidhamma or flux or 3-life-time interpretation of dependent arising for me. The commentaries are not seen by me to have been created by Ariyans but by scholar monks, and by their own admission where they differ from the Suttas, the Suttas are to be given primacy, so I do. I don't throw the baby out with the bathwater mind you, but I don't trust the commentaries as being authoritative and I evaluate any point made within the prism of my heterodox ideas.
In essence, I only take the Digha, Majjhima, Samyutta, Anguttara, and portions of the KN (Dhammapada, Sutta Nipata, Udana & Itivuttaka, Theri/Theragatha, Khuddakapatha, & Jatakas) to be Buddhavacana, along with the Vinaya these are the only books I accept to be the historical Buddha's teachings.
BlackBird wrote:I'm one of those non-mahaviharan Theravadans. No Abhidhamma or flux or 3-life-time interpretation of dependent arising for me.
David N. Snyder wrote:Hi greenjuice,
I get the impression from your posts that you are having some issues with the Theravada concepts of anatta, nibbana. You also appear to like the Pali Canon and want something close to the original teachings. Nothing wrong with that, I am sure there a number of people with similar issues.
And then when you make more progress along the Path, you will either confirm those pudgalavādin views or accept anatta fully; through experience.
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