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Kamma is anatta?

Postby Buckwheat » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:09 pm

Is there a place in the Suttas where the Buddha says, "kamma is anatta"?
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Re: Kamma is anatta?

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Re: Kamma is anatta?

Postby Dhammanando » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:37 pm

Buckwheat wrote:Is there a place in the Suttas where the Buddha says, "kamma is anatta"?


I don't think this phrase ever occurs in the Suttas, but it may be inferred that kamma is anattā from the fact that:

• The saṅkhāras of saṅkhārakkhandha are defined in the Suttas as the six bodies of cetanā.
• Saṅkhārakkhandha is anattā.
• Kamma is cetanā.

I have to go out now, but I'll try to post the relevant citations later, if someone else doesn't do so in the meantime.
    ...and this thought arose in the mind of the Blessed One:
    “Who lives without reverence lives miserably.”
    Uruvela Sutta, A.ii.20

    It were endless to dispute upon everything that is disputable.
    — William Penn Some Fruits of Solitude,
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Re: Kamma is anatta?

Postby kc2dpt » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:53 pm

There are many places in the suttas wherein the Buddha says the five aggregates are anatta.
Mental formations comprise the fourth aggregate.
Intention is one kind of mental formation.

"Intention, I tell you, is kamma. Intending, one does kamma by way of body, speech, & intellect." - AN 6.63

This is one example.
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Re: Kamma is anatta?

Postby kc2dpt » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:00 pm

Somehow I didn't see Bhante's responses before I posted my own.
Also, I've clearly forgotten lots of Pali in the past few years. :lol:
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Re: Kamma is anatta?

Postby Buckwheat » Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:08 am

Thank you, both responses. :anjali:
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Re: Kamma is anatta?

Postby Dhammanando » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:03 am

Dhammanando wrote:• The saṅkhāras of saṅkhārakkhandha are defined in the Suttas as the six bodies of cetanā.


Katame ca, bhikkhave, saṅkhārā? Chayime, bhikkhave, cetanākāyā: rūpasañcetanā, saddasañcetanā, gandhasañcetanā, rasasañcetanā, phoṭṭhabbasañcetanā, dhammasañcetanā. Ime vuccanti, bhikkhave, saṅkhārā.
(Upādānaparipavatta Sutta, SN.iii.60)
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn22/sn22.056.than.html

Dhammanando wrote:• Saṅkhārakkhandha is anattā.


Saṅkhārā anattā. Saṅkhārā ca hidaṃ, bhikkhave, attā abhavissaṃsu, nayidaṃ saṅkhārā ābādhāya saṃvatteyyuṃ, labbhetha ca saṅkhāresu: ‘evaṃ me saṅkhārā hontu, evaṃ me saṅkhārā mā ahesun’ ti. Yasmā ca kho, bhikkhave, saṅkhārā anattā, tasmā saṅkhārā ābādhāya saṃvattanti, na ca labbhati saṅkhāresu: ‘evaṃ me saṅkhārā hontu, evaṃ me saṅkhārā mā ahesun’ ti.
(Anattalakkhaṇa Sutta, SN.iii.67)
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn22/sn22.059.nymo.html

Dhammanando wrote:• Kamma is cetanā.


Cetanā’haṃ, bhikkhave, kammaṃ vadāmi. Cetayitvā kammaṃ karoti: kāyena vācāya manasā.
(Nibbedhika Sutta, AN.iii.415)
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an06/an06.063.than.html
    ...and this thought arose in the mind of the Blessed One:
    “Who lives without reverence lives miserably.”
    Uruvela Sutta, A.ii.20

    It were endless to dispute upon everything that is disputable.
    — William Penn Some Fruits of Solitude,
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Re: Kamma is anatta?

Postby Buckwheat » Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:04 pm

:goodpost: This was a good set of reading for me this morning. Thanks, bhante. :anjali:
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