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Science and Buddhism

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths. What can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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Science and Buddhism

Postby Tom » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:03 pm

From a DhammaVinaya point of view, should we trust scientific "laws" to maintain consistency? I'm thinking about becoming a scientist because I've recognized how many technologies developed from science, however I don't necessarily trust that science presents absolute certainties to the world, so I don't know whether or not it would be safe to play with this uncertainty.

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Re: Science and Buddhism

Postby Jhana4 » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:25 pm

In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

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Re: Science and Buddhism

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:41 pm

Science cannot solve the problem of human suffering. It might be able to find some DNA fault that might have been responsible for the deformity suffered by , but it cannot answer the question, why was John Merrick born with that faulty gene?

What matters for us is to find out what causes us to suffer here and now. Without the Buddha's supernormal powers we cannot know what past kamma lead to the present result. Even if the Buddha or one like him could tell us, we would still not be free from suffering the results of kamma that we do inherit.

So, what should we do? Study science to solve scientific and technological problems. Study the Buddha's teaching to solve the human problem of suffering.
• • • • (Upasampadā: 24th June, 1979)

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Re: Science and Buddhism

Postby Jhana4 » Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:20 pm

In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

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Re: Science and Buddhism

Postby HumbleThinker » Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:39 pm

"I know that I know nothing" -Socrates

IOW, take what I say with a grain of salt, for I likely know as little or less than you do.

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Re: Science and Buddhism

Postby Kusala » Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:53 pm

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"He, the Blessed One, is indeed the Noble Lord, the Perfectly Enlightened One;
He is impeccable in conduct and understanding, the Serene One, the Knower of the Worlds;
He trains perfectly those who wish to be trained; he is Teacher of gods and men; he is Awake and Holy. "

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"The Dhamma is well-expounded by the Blessed One,
Apparent here and now, timeless, encouraging investigation,
Leading to liberation, to be experienced individually by the wise. "

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Re: Science and Buddhism

Postby Kusala » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:55 pm

The most beautiful and profound emotion we can experience is the sensation of the mystical. It is the sower of all true science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is good as dead. - Albert Einstein
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"He, the Blessed One, is indeed the Noble Lord, the Perfectly Enlightened One;
He is impeccable in conduct and understanding, the Serene One, the Knower of the Worlds;
He trains perfectly those who wish to be trained; he is Teacher of gods and men; he is Awake and Holy. "

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"The Dhamma is well-expounded by the Blessed One,
Apparent here and now, timeless, encouraging investigation,
Leading to liberation, to be experienced individually by the wise. "

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Re: Science and Buddhism

Postby Tom » Thu Nov 28, 2013 5:23 am

Would working as an engineer or computer scientist fall under right livelihood?

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Re: Science and Buddhism

Postby mahat » Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:20 pm

Without science, especially computer science, I would never have figured out that Buddha's 4 Noble Truths is a beautiful algorithm involving recursion! :jawdrop:
I was so excited when I figured it out! :woohoo:

Science really has helped me appreciate Buddha's spiritual genius -- that he was above and beyond any founder of any other tradition, either philosophical or religious.

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Re: Science and Buddhism

Postby SarathW » Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:19 pm

I agree with you Mahat, I learned most about Buddhism through internet.
Anyone who says science is not important is see only the one side of the Buddha’s teaching.
We can’t burn the raft before we cross the river!
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“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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Re: Science and Buddhism

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Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
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Re: Science and Buddhism

Postby kmath » Fri Nov 29, 2013 6:14 pm

“If scientific analysis were conclusively to demonstrate certain claims in Buddhism to be false, then we must accept the findings of science and abandon those claims.”


― His Holiness Dalai Lama XIV, The Universe in a Single Atom: The Convergence of Science and Spirituality

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Re: Science and Buddhism

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Re: Science and Buddhism

Postby Modus.Ponens » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:46 pm

He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
(Jhana Sutta - Thanissaro Bhikkhu translation)


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