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Bertrand Russell and rebirth

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Postby FatDaddy » Mon May 20, 2013 5:44 pm

[/quote] Does anyone else have a reason to believe in rebirth?[/quote]

I don't have any reason to "believe" in rebirth but I have reasons to live as if it were true. It is a three dimensional model of cause and effect. Every physical, verbal and mental action has an effect in this life and/or beyond this life. I think arguing about literal truth or falshood of rebirth may miss the point. It is not scientific but it is extremely useful to me.
Happy, at rest,
may all beings be happy at heart.
Whatever beings there may be,
weak or strong, without exception,
long, large,
middling, short,
subtle, blatant,
seen & unseen,
near & far, born & seeking birth: May all beings be happy at heart.

Let no one deceive another
or despise anyone anywhere,
or through anger or irritation
wish for another to suffer.
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"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Postby polarbear101 » Tue May 21, 2013 11:20 am

Bertrand Russell: "I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."

Another funny Russell quote, or so says the internet: "Most people would rather die than think; in fact, they do so."

Anyway, Alex, you seem to have some large qualms with certain facets of buddhist doctrine, but the whole of the contemplative human experience does not lie within buddhism. If I could recommend to you a wonderful book called Philosophy As A Way of Life I think you may rather enjoy it.

http://www.amazon.com/Philosophy-Way-Li ... 0631180338

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"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."

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"My religion is very simple - my religion is ice-cream."
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Re: Bertrand Russell and rebirth

Postby convivium » Tue May 21, 2013 11:38 pm

i'm not sure this quote has anything to do with rebirth.
Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php

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Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php

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Re: Bertrand Russell and rebirth

Postby convivium » Wed May 22, 2013 1:07 am

i think this essay is reasonably brilliant.
Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php

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Re: Bertrand Russell and rebirth

Postby convivium » Wed May 22, 2013 1:13 am

the part on time could be stronger.
Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php


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