TheDhamma wrote:We don't have caste in America or in Buddhism, so why do you feel you need to be in the military?
Just because your family was in the military for many generations? That is not anything unusual. In the past, most everyone served at least a few years in the military, or even as a career. Why not do what you like to do or what you have an aptitude to do?
appicchato wrote:Hi Individual,
Personally speaking, I'm not really sold on the idea of destiny (and this seems to be what you're basing your choice(s) on)...if I were asked, I'd suggest taking a closer look at the concept...be that as it may, I wish you success in your endeavors...
jcsuperstar wrote:i come from a marine family... but i desided that if i was to shave my heaad and and wear a uniform, it would be safforn robes not dress blues... you inherit your kamma like you inherit a house... burn that baby down!
Individual wrote:but if I serve well in the military (and it is doubtful I would kill anyone), then that would be good preparation for me being a Buddhist monk, or whatever else I might choose to be later in life.
zavk wrote:Hi Individual and other friends,
I grew up in Singapore which has conscription and I have actually served 2.5 years in the military. I was in a combat unit -- did the lot, fired guns, lobbed grenades, dug trenches, etc, etc.
So what are my views about a military career?
The military will do it what it can to mold its personnel into a particular worldview. Whilst it is true that one gets a lot of physical training and exercise in the military, I'd say its primary aim with regards to personnel is to put the individual through a thorough process of subjectification. In other words, all military activities are in the end, concerned with shaping the mind. This is of course necessary, especially if one is in a combat unit.
Now, people often ask me if I benefited from my stint in the army. I usually say that I absolutely detest the constant indoctrination that goes on as well as the fixation with power in some people of position. I do not agree that one has to enter the military to build 'character' for I do not think that subjectifying someone to a certain view is 'character-building'.
Having said that, when I think back to my time in the army, I'm still surprise at how much I was able to endure. I am still surprise at how much sh*t I could take, how much I could achieve when I set my mind to it. I really learned about the power of effort and determination.
So, in terms of your question about whether military experience would prepare you to be a monk or not: I think it might help you insofar as you would be learning much about effort, determination and discipline. BUT the military isn't the only place where you can cultivate those qualities. The kind of discipline promoted in the military is of a specific kind, for a specific purpose.
Having said all that, please keep in mind that my stint in the military was NOT voluntary. So I think it won't surprise you that I don't feel too positive about it. The only thing I really appreciated about it was that it made me VERY VERY FIT and well, erm, I did look pretty darn fit too.
Individual wrote:if I serve well in the military (and it is doubtful I would kill anyone)
nathan wrote:I say this in compassion because I know far fewer people in the free world, since the last war, who have not had a hit from the bong, FIRST. Stop that.
Individual wrote:nathan wrote:I say this in compassion because I know far fewer people in the free world, since the last war, who have not had a hit from the bong, FIRST. Stop that.
That was dealt with several months ago.
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