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Buddha and Jiddu Krishnamurti

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Buddha and Jiddu Krishnamurti

Postby Element » Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:17 am

Dear Forum,

For us, what differences and similarities come to mind when we read & practise the Buddhadhamma & the teachings of Jiddu Krishnmurti?

When I first learned Buddhism, in the 80's, the Dhamma centres were full of books & talks by and people talking about KM.

Even Ajahn Buddhadasa chuckled away one day saying he enjoyed KM's first book.

Now things appear quiet. Is his movement still active?

With metta

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Re: Buddha and Jiddu Krishnamurti

Postby Ben » Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:07 am

Hi Element,
Is there something specific with regards to Krishnamurti's work that you wanted to raise?
My memory is a bit rusty, I read his 'Talks to American Students' nearly twenty years ago. More recently, I read about a meeting between John Coleman with Krishnamurti while Coleman was on his spiritual quest in the 1960s. If you are a fan of Krishnamurti it is worthwhile checking out Coleman's 'The Quiet Mind' as I am sure the portrayal of Krishnamurti is one that may not be that well known to his later students.
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Re: Jiddu Krishnamurti

Postby Will » Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:01 am

There is a website for his organization: http://www.kfa.org/
A bodhisattva does not become weary of evil beings nor does he commit the error of bringing forth thoughts inclined to reject them and cast them aside. Avatamsaka Sutra, ch. 25

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Re: Buddha and Jiddu Krishnamurti

Postby Element » Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:32 am


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Re: Buddha and Jiddu Krishnamurti

Postby Ben » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:37 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Jiddu Krishnamurti

Postby Will » Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:50 pm

He taught nothing special, just standard Advaita Vedanta - without naming it as such. He was brilliant, but with a vicious temper and was a hypocrite of the first water. I heard him speak in Ojai once and juxtaposed were his precise, piercing thoughts and biting contempt for some questioners.

He pretended not to care about himself or his status as a "guru" to thousands, but kept hidden his affairs with married women; the abortions he encouraged etc. Read this critical biography by one who knew him better than most -

http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchR ... w&x=70&y=9
A bodhisattva does not become weary of evil beings nor does he commit the error of bringing forth thoughts inclined to reject them and cast them aside. Avatamsaka Sutra, ch. 25

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Re: Jiddu Krishnamurti

Postby Element » Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:53 pm

I liked some of his teachings. I recall a wonderful talk called 'The need to be alone", which was about how to get through the hindrance of existential fear.

KM made the wonderful distinction between 'loneliness' & 'aloneless'. Of course, in Buddhism, 'aloneness' is a spiritual state and, on the highest level, a synonym for Nibbana, what in Pali is called 'viveka'.

I also liked his view about 'death is the ending of thought'.

KM was certainly creative and articulate. :smile:

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Re: Buddha and Jiddu Krishnamurti

Postby zavk » Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:24 am

With metta,
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Re: Buddha and Jiddu Krishnamurti

Postby zamis » Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:39 pm

The greatest influence in my turning to Buddhism a second time, was a little book he supposedly didn't write (At the Master's Feet) when he was a young boy "found" by the Theosophical Society. I must have read that book at least a hundred times over a ten year period. Finding out he didn't write it (it was attributed to Leadbeater???) was a jolt. Krishnamurti's book Freedom from the Known was also highly influential, and as with the one mentioned above, the influence was away from him.

There is not much parallel between Krishnamurti and Theravada but many times as I read his work, the Heart Sutra came to mind.
"You're almost at the end of your lease in this burning house and yet you continue latching onto it as your self. It tricks you into feeling fear and love, and when you fall for it, what path will you practice? " Upasika Kee Nanayon


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Re: Buddha and Jiddu Krishnamurti

Postby Will » Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:02 pm

A bodhisattva does not become weary of evil beings nor does he commit the error of bringing forth thoughts inclined to reject them and cast them aside. Avatamsaka Sutra, ch. 25

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Re: Buddha and Jiddu Krishnamurti

Postby zamis » Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:38 pm

rofl. thank you Will. I should say that I read A los pies del maestro. It was the Spanish translation. The emphasis was on "el sendero," the path. So when I encountered the Noble Eightfold Path, there was an instantaneous connection - a "seeing". I wonder if Leadbetter stream reaps merit from such an ocurrence?
"You're almost at the end of your lease in this burning house and yet you continue latching onto it as your self. It tricks you into feeling fear and love, and when you fall for it, what path will you practice? " Upasika Kee Nanayon



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