Why life does not really exist

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Why life does not really exist

Postby cooran » Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:59 am

Hello all,

Interesting article:
Why life does not really exist
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/bra ... lly-exist/

With metta,
Chris
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Re: Why life does not really exist

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:19 am

Thanks Chris!
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Re: Why life does not really exist

Postby Sokehi » Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:27 am

good find, thanks for sharing!
Get the wanting out of waiting

What does womanhood matter at all, when the mind is concentrated well, when knowledge flows on steadily as one sees correctly into Dhamma. One to whom it might occur, ‘I am a woman’ or ‘I am a man’ or ‘I’m anything at all’ is fit for Mara to address. – SN 5.2

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Re: Why life does not really exist

Postby chownah » Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:35 pm

In physics it is said that the overall condition of existence is that there is a continual decrease in the orderedness of the stuff the universe is made of..........life seems to be a process which violates that decrease......life seems to be continually taking materials with little orderliness and imposing order.
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Re: Why life does not really exist

Postby Spiny Norman » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:34 pm

"My religion is very simple - my religion is ice-cream."
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Postby Kare » Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:16 pm

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Re: Why life does not really exist

Postby Mkoll » Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:49 pm

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa

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Re: Why life does not really exist

Postby Mkoll » Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:32 pm

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
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Re: Why life does not really exist

Postby kirk5a » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:40 pm

Nevertheless, the author was able to tell the difference between a live cat and a dead one.
"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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Re: Why life does not really exist

Postby SarathW » Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:30 pm

In this article author says:
“Life is a concept that we invented.”
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This is very similar to Abhidhamma teaching that the life is a Cetasika and come under Universal Mental Factors.

" Psychic life (jiivitindriya), the vital force supporting and maintaining the other mental factors".
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... el322.html
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Buddhism also teaches that you find Psychi life in plants as well.

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How the life is crated on earth is well explained in Visudhimaga.
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Re: Why life does not really exist

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Re: Why life does not really exist

Postby SarathW » Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:45 pm

7. Jãvitindriya—
Jãvita = life; + Indriya = controlling faculty or principle.
It is called Jãvita because it sustains its co-associates.
It is called Indriya because it controls its co-associates.
Although Cetanà determines the activities of all mental
states, it is Jãvitindriya that infuses life into Cetanà and
other concomitants.
Jãvitindriya is twofold—namely, psychic life (Nàma-
Jãvitindriya) and physical life (Råpa-Jãvitindriya). Mental
States are vitalized by psychic life, while material phenomena
are vitalized by physical life.
As lotuses are sustained by water, an infant is sustained
by a nurse, so are mental states and material phenomena
sustained by Jãvitindriya.
One Råpa-Jãvitindriya lasts for seventeen thoughtmoments.
Seventeen Nàma-Jãvitindriyas arise and perish
during the brief life of one Råpa-Jãvitindriya.
There is a certain kind of Råpa-Jãvitindriya in plant
life. But, Råpa-Jãvitindriya in men and animals is differentiated
from that which exists in plants because the former
is conditioned by past Kamma.

P109:
http://www.buddhanet.net/pdf_file/abhidhamma.pdf
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Re: Why life does not really exist

Postby Mkoll » Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:52 pm

Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa

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Re: Why life does not really exist

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Re: Why life does not really exist

Postby robertk » Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:01 am

Thanks sarathw
That quote seems incorrect.
Jivitindriya only arises wirh the groups of rupas produced by kamma .

The matter making up plants are tejo produced and never by kamma: so i think there is no jivitindriya associated with plants

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Re: Why life does not really exist

Postby robertk » Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:10 am

Thanks sarathw
That quote seems incorrect.
Jivitindriya only arises wirh the groups of Rupas [edit, by robert]produced by kamma .

The matter making up plants are tejo produced and never by kamma: there is no jivitindriya at all associated with plants

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Re: Why life does not really exist

Postby SarathW » Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:12 am

It says:
There is a certain kind of Råpa-Jãvitindriya in plant
life.
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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Re: Why life does not really exist

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