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Creativity

Postby greggorious » Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:10 pm

I'm sure I've asked this question before, but can't remember if I got a response or not.
I work in the creative industry. I'm a musician and actor, and occasional writer and poet. Creativity is very important to me and my work, but I'm aware that my creativity comes from a place of 'desire', and in Buddhism aren't we meant to work towards eliminating desire? as it's desire that brings about rebirth. So with that in mind, would creativity be a 'bad' thing in terms of seeking freedom?
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Re: Creativity

Postby Kusala » Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:41 pm

greggorious wrote:I'm sure I've asked this question before, but can't remember if I got a response or not.
I work in the creative industry. I'm a musician and actor, and occasional writer and poet. Creativity is very important to me and my work, but I'm aware that my creativity comes from a place of 'desire', and in Buddhism aren't we meant to work towards eliminating desire? as it's desire that brings about rebirth. So with that in mind, would creativity be a 'bad' thing in terms of seeking freedom?


No. We need desire to end suffering. Desire in and itself is neutral.
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Re: Creativity

Postby Cittasanto » Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:51 pm

there were vinaya monastics in Japanese Zen at one/various point(s) and they were at times poets (including the "enlightened ones")... also there is a book of poetry by a Theravada Bhikkhu from Harnham (not to my taste but I am not a poetry fan specifically).
it is more to do with what qualities of mind you bring to your work, the Buddha wasn't ignorant of music and used music theory to describe how to walk the path. other Arahants were pleased with beauty also (and if I remember correctly, one in the Theragatha even comments on the beauty of music in the morning??????).

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I did however recently watch this which I thourally enjoyed
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Re: Creativity

Postby chownah » Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:23 am

I'm not sure that creativity necessarily comes from desire. I guess it depends on how you define creativity. Can you give some kind of definition or explanation of what you mean?
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Re: Creativity

Postby Kusala » Sun Aug 18, 2013 6:29 am

greggorious wrote:I'm sure I've asked this question before, but can't remember if I got a response or not.
I work in the creative industry. I'm a musician and actor, and occasional writer and poet. Creativity is very important to me and my work, but I'm aware that my creativity comes from a place of 'desire', and in Buddhism aren't we meant to work towards eliminating desire? as it's desire that brings about rebirth. So with that in mind, would creativity be a 'bad' thing in terms of seeking freedom?


Meditation Makes You More Creative http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 102317.htm
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Re: Creativity

Postby Kusala » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:47 am

"Creativity can be described as letting go of certainties"
- Gail Sheehy
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