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Happy St Patrick's Day

Postby tiltbillings » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:50 am

An obair diabhail agat, a Naomh Pádraig.

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My Saint Patrick's Day Wreath.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

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People live in one another’s shelter.

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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day

Postby plwk » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:05 am

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Bhikkhus, if you develop and make much this one thing,
it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.
What is it? It is recollecting the Enlightened One.
If this single thing is recollected and made much,
it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.

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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day

Postby Digity » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:45 am

:toast:
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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day

Postby Reductor » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:26 am

Can teetotallers party, too? :tongue:
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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day

Postby tiltbillings » Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:52 am

Reductor wrote:Can teetotallers party, too? :tongue:
Oh, yeah. But St P himself, probably not so welcome.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson
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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day

Postby Ben » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:37 am

Great photo, Tilt.
I think I'll be spending the day with Quinn exploring the innards of a cave complex not far from here, possibly via a rope and some head torches or two.
Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.

Taṃ nadīhi vijānātha:
sobbhesu padaresu ca,
saṇantā yanti kusobbhā,
tuṇhīyanti mahodadhī.

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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day

Postby tiltbillings » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:11 am

Ben wrote:Great photo, Tilt.
I think I'll be spending the day with Quinn exploring the innards of a cave complex not far from here, possibly via a rope and some head torches or two.
Sounds like fun, but do be careful.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day

Postby Ben » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:42 am

tiltbillings wrote:
Ben wrote:Great photo, Tilt.
I think I'll be spending the day with Quinn exploring the innards of a cave complex not far from here, possibly via a rope and some head torches or two.
Sounds like fun, but do be careful.


We will, thanks. The caves are home to a cave spider that give a nasty bight.
And its someone's birthday adventure.
Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.

Taṃ nadīhi vijānātha:
sobbhesu padaresu ca,
saṇantā yanti kusobbhā,
tuṇhīyanti mahodadhī.

Sutta Nipata 3.725


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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day

Postby Spiny Norman » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:30 am

Reductor wrote:Can teetotallers party, too? :tongue:


"Teetotal"? Something to do with golf? :tongue:
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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day

Postby plwk » Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:29 pm

Great photo, Tilt.
I think I'll be spending the day with Quinn exploring the innards of a cave complex not far from here, possibly via a rope and some head torches or two.

Don't forget the Atanatiya Sutta and metta.... never know what little green men are inside.... :mrgreen:
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it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.
What is it? It is recollecting the Enlightened One.
If this single thing is recollected and made much,
it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.

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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:32 pm

Happy St. Paddy's Day!
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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day

Postby tiltbillings » Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:45 pm

Khalil Bodhi wrote:Happy St. Paddy's Day!
Yes. As long as St P is not invited.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day

Postby Mr Man » Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:04 pm

Aren't we a week early here?
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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day

Postby Kim OHara » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:26 pm

Mr Man wrote:Aren't we a week early here?

Wouldn't want to be late for the ceilidh, would we?
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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day

Postby Reductor » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:25 am

tiltbillings wrote:
Reductor wrote:Can teetotallers party, too? :tongue:
Oh, yeah. But St P himself, probably not so welcome.


Now I'm curious: why not? I could read wiki and see if I can figure out the answer, but that article's too long. :tongue:
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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day

Postby tiltbillings » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:25 am

Reductor wrote:
tiltbillings wrote:
Reductor wrote:Can teetotallers party, too? :tongue:
Oh, yeah. But St P himself, probably not so welcome.


Now I'm curious: why not? I could read wiki and see if I can figure out the answer, but that article's too long. :tongue:
Of course the history of Ireland is long, complicated, and difficult. A wreath of snakes is not a celebration of a Christian missionary who according to legend drove out of the island all the snakes. And the snake is, of course, in its Christian mythos a symbol of the devil and in this context it is also a symbol of the druidic religion of the Ireland, which according to legend Patrick destroyed. The reality, needless to say, is not the legend. The Christianization of Ireland took very much longer than Saint P's life time, and the Roman Catholicizing of Irish Christianity took even longer, and then add to that ugly and often brutal occupation of Ireland by the English . . . . Fortunately, the recent exposures of wide spread and long term Catholic Church abuses in Ireland has done much to undermine the grip that church has on the Irish culture and politics.

Be that as it may, a wreath of snakes is not a celebration of either Patrick or his religion. It is, rather, a nod to the pagan Irish forefathers and foremothers whose influences still add some color to a very rich palette.



Gaeilge (Irish)
Bábóg na Bealtaine, maighdean an tSamhraidh,
Suas gach cnoc is síos gach gleann,
Cailíní maiseacha bán-gheala gléasta,
Thugamar féin an samhradh linn.

Samhradh, samhradh, bainne na ngamhna,
Thugamar féin an samhradh linn.
Samhradh buí na nóinín glégeal,
Thugamar féin an samhradh linn.

Thugamar linn é ón gcoill chraobhaigh,
Thugamar féin an samhradh linn.
Samhradh buí ó luí na gréine,
Thugamar féin an samhradh linn.

Samhradh, samhradh, bainne na ngamhna,
Thugamar féin an samhradh linn.
Samhradh buí na nóinín glégeal,
Thugamar féin an samhradh linn.

Tá an fhuiseog ag seinm ‘sag luascadh sna spéartha,
Áthas do lá is bláth ar chrann.
Tá an chuach is an fhuiseog ag seinm le pléisiúr,
Thugamar féin an samhradh linn.

Samhradh, samhradh, bainne na ngamhna,
Thugamar féin an samhradh linn.
Samhradh buí na nóinín glégeal,
Thugamar féin an samhradh linn.

Béarla (English)

Mayday doll, maiden of Summer
Up every hill and down every glen,
Beautiful girls, radiant and shining,
We have brought the Summer in.

Summer, Summer, milk of the calves,
We have brought the Summer in.
Yellow summer of clear bright daisies,
We have brought the Summer in.

We brought it in from the leafy woods,
We have brought the Summer in.
Yellow Summer from the time of the sunset,
We have brought the Summer in.

Summer, Summer, milk of the calves,
We have brought the Summer in.
Yellow summer of clear bright daisies,
We have brought the Summer in.

The lark is singing and swinging around in the skies,
Joy for the dat and the flower on the trees.
The cuckoo and the lark are singing with pleasure,
We have brought the Summer in.

Summer, Summer, milk of the calves,
We have brought the Summer in.
Yellow summer of clear bright daisies,
We have brought the Summer in.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day

Postby Reductor » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:35 am

tiltbillings wrote:Be that as it may, a wreath of snakes is not a celebration of either Patrick or his religion. It is, rather, a nod to the pagan Irish forefathers and foremothers whose influences still add some color to a very rich palette.

Gaeilge (Irish)
Bábóg na Bealtaine, maighdean an tSamhraidh,
Suas gach cnoc is síos gach gleann,
Cailíní maiseacha bán-gheala gléasta,
Thugamar féin an samhradh linn.
....


Thanks for the explanation and the song, Tilt. I wikied about the Irish language, and was interested to see that its rate of daily use has risen some in the last six years. Although it's a bummer about it being driven to the point of decimation in the first place. The loss of languages in the world strikes me as loss of human wonder, to be honest.

How is your own study of it going, if you don't mind my asking?
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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day

Postby tiltbillings » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:49 am

Reductor wrote:
How is your own study of it going, if you don't mind my asking?
I'll never be able to carry on a conversation, but my goal is to be able to read it and that is progressing. Thanks for asking.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
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Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day

Postby Reductor » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:03 am

tiltbillings wrote:
Reductor wrote:
How is your own study of it going, if you don't mind my asking?
I'll never be able to carry on a conversation, but my goal is to be able to read it and that is progressing. Thanks for asking.


That's good to hear :thumbsup:

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Re: Happy St Patrick's Day

Postby tiltbillings » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:07 am

Reductor wrote:
tiltbillings wrote:
Reductor wrote:
How is your own study of it going, if you don't mind my asking?
I'll never be able to carry on a conversation, but my goal is to be able to read it and that is progressing. Thanks for asking.


That's good to hear :thumbsup:

G'night (lordy, why do I stay up so late?)
I work night shift, and when I am not working I keep to those hours, otherwise I end up with jet-lag, or as i refer to it: sleep hell.
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