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by Spiny Norman
Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:41 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Kamma and intention
Replies: 28
Views: 558

Re: Kamma and intention

Suddh wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:08 pm And of how the crazy mahāyāna emptiness teachings evolved via the Big Lie that he did teach it.
You've read the Sunna Sutta, right?

Shunyata is the logical conclusion development of the anatta teaching.
by Spiny Norman
Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:35 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Your Dhamma Verses Here.
Replies: 15
Views: 659

Re: Your Dhamma Verses Here.

"Form is only emptiness, emptiness only form."
- The Heart Sutra
by Spiny Norman
Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:14 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Identity View
Replies: 47
Views: 5110

Re: Identity View

The teaching is that there are mental objects and forms and that they are without a self / they are no self (anatta) and anicca and dukkha. The teaching is that the senses are all there is, and the senses are empty of self. The teaching is that a "being" is just a convention, and that the...
by Spiny Norman
Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:50 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Identity View
Replies: 47
Views: 5110

Re: Identity View

Hence, given the extensive teachings on this topic and the varied vocabularies deployed by the Buddha, I think that as a first approximation it is warranted, legitimate and useful to describe them as a teachings of no self. Buddhas useful approximation to his teachings is dukkha, it’s arising and o...
by Spiny Norman
Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:00 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Identity View
Replies: 47
Views: 5110

Re: Identity View

From SN 5.10: "Why now do you assume 'a being'? Mara, have you grasped a view? This is a heap of sheer constructions: Here no being is found. Just as, with an assemblage of parts, The word 'chariot' is used, So, when the aggregates are present, There's the convention 'a being.'" https://ww...
by Spiny Norman
Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:39 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Identity View
Replies: 47
Views: 5110

Re: Identity View

Suddh wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:30 pm
Spiny Norman wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:21 pm Read the Sabba Sutta, then the Sunna Sutta.
It's pretty clear.
Read them many times. They're clear, yes. Your point is not.
The senses are all there is (Sabba Sutta) and the senses are empty of self (Sunna Sutta).
Again, is this not clear to you?
by Spiny Norman
Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:34 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Identity View
Replies: 47
Views: 5110

Re: Identity View

The Buddha is quite clear that if Vacchagotta hadn’t been liable to such confusion, he would have said there is no self. A true self is an impossible thing. Indeed, and it's very clear. It's puzzles me that some don't (won't?) understand this. Do explain it for our benefit if you can. Is the follow...
by Spiny Norman
Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:21 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Identity View
Replies: 47
Views: 5110

Re: Identity View

by Spiny Norman
Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:09 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: What is a dhammā exactly?
Replies: 41
Views: 1065

Re: What is a dhammā exactly?

SarathW wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:16 am Nibbana can not be experienced as it is unconditioned.
:D
Why bother then? :tongue:
by Spiny Norman
Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:07 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: Identity View
Replies: 47
Views: 5110

Re: Identity View

Ceisiwr wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:03 pm The Buddha is quite clear that if Vacchagotta hadn’t been liable to such confusion, he would have said there is no self. A true self is an impossible thing.
Indeed, and it's very clear. It's puzzles me that some don't (won't?) understand this.
by Spiny Norman
Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:24 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: What is a dhammā exactly?
Replies: 41
Views: 1065

Re: What is a dhammā exactly?

Anything we fabricate If they are qualities then that isn’t quite true. Also nibbana is said to be a dhamma. Conditioned qualities are fabricated. And nibbana is beyond fabrication by definition. We have to distinguish between conditioned and unconditioned dhammas. "Anything we experience"...
by Spiny Norman
Mon Mar 25, 2024 3:20 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: What is a dhammā exactly?
Replies: 41
Views: 1065

Re: What is a dhammā exactly?

Anything we experience?
by Spiny Norman
Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:54 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: "If we owned our body, it would obey our every command"
Replies: 41
Views: 773

Re: "If we owned our body, it would obey our every command"

Hello, I keep running into this statement in Ajahn Chah's teachings. I don't understand the logic. To me this sounds like a logical fallacy, because it doesn't matter what kind of thing you own, it just does not follow that said thing will 'obey your commands', especially if it's not even a being o...
by Spiny Norman
Sat Mar 16, 2024 4:29 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Buddha appear lagging behind Jesus & Mohammed
Replies: 75
Views: 4038

Re: Buddha appear lagging behind Jesus & Mohammed

I sometimes wonder whether the focus on suffering puts people off.
by Spiny Norman
Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:51 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The great cappucciNO SELF debate
Replies: 760
Views: 19390

Re: The great cappucciNO SELF debate

cappuccino wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:18 pm
Spiny Norman wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:46 pm Eternalism is … while annihilationism is
Eternalism means you do not change


(You are the same person you always were)


Annihilationism means you won’t exist


(Period)
No.