MikeRalphKing wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:31 amAt Savatthi. "Bhikkhus, there are these four portions. What
four? The portion of identity, the portion of the origin of
identity, the portion of the cessation of identity, the portion of the
way leading to the cessation of identity. (SN 22.103 Portions)
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- Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:21 am
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Identity View
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Re: Identity View
- Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:20 am
- Forum: General Theravāda discussion
- Topic: the great rebirth debate
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- Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:15 am
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Identity View
- Replies: 62
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Re: Identity View
He does, however, frequently speak about the self as though it does exist, without warning people that he's actually talking about something that doesn't. Perhaps you've forgotten about this verse from SN 5.10: "Why now do you assume 'a being'? Mara, have you grasped a view? This is a heap of ...
- Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:22 am
- Forum: Connections to Other Paths
- Topic: Popularity of Mahāyāna
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- Views: 116
Re: Popularity of Mahāyāna
In my nearest city there is Triratna, two Tibetan groups, and a Zen group.
There was a Thai Forest group, but it shut down - they seem to have a monastic focus anyway.
- Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:15 am
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Identity View
- Replies: 62
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Re: Identity View
Do explain it for our benefit if you can. Is the following passage not clear to you? "If I — being asked by Vacchagotta the wanderer if there is a self — were to answer that there is a self, would that be in keeping with the arising of knowledge that all phenomena are not-self?" "No,...
- Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:12 am
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Identity View
- Replies: 62
- Views: 5280
Re: Identity View
Read them many times. They're clear, yes. Your point is not. The senses are all there is (Sabba Sutta) and the senses are empty of self (Sunna Sutta). Again, is this not clear to you? The senses are all there is? Is there such a thing as the deathless, do you think? (Also known as the permanent, th...
- Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:11 am
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Identity View
- Replies: 62
- Views: 5280
Re: Identity View
From the Phena Sutta: "Form is like a glob of foam; feeling, a bubble; perception, a mirage; fabrications, a banana tree; consciousness, a magic trick — this has been taught by the Kinsman of the Sun. However you observe them, appropriately examine them, they're empty, void to whoever sees the...
- Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:10 pm
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Ven. Dhammapāla on Nibbāna
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Re: Ven. Dhammapāla on Nibbāna
In this commentary on the Visuddhimagga, regarding the section which discusses nibbāna, Ven. Dhammapāla writes this yadi nibbānaṃ nāma sabhāvadhammo atthi sattasantānapariyāpanno ca, atha kasmā catumahāpathe sabhā viya sabbasādhāraṇā na labbhatīti āha "maggasamaṅginā pattabbato asādhāraṇa"...
- Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:03 pm
- Forum: General Theravāda discussion
- Topic: Kamma and intention
- Replies: 31
- Views: 736
- Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:58 pm
- Forum: Vipassanā / Satipaṭṭhāna Bhāvana
- Topic: What are your ideas about Pa Auk method ?
- Replies: 54
- Views: 62181
Re: What are your ideas about Pa Auk method ?
It refers to the ultimate truths of impermanence and non-self. A mother or father is a conventional truth, but once you realise that everything is not-self, including your parents, you can say that there is no mother or father. It aims to emphasize that ultimately everything is emptiness and to les...
- Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:54 pm
- Forum: Vipassanā / Satipaṭṭhāna Bhāvana
- Topic: What are your ideas about Pa Auk method ?
- Replies: 54
- Views: 62181
Re: What are your ideas about Pa Auk method ?
Here he shows that teaching "there is no self" is an unbeneficial and confusing teaching that sides with the extreme of annihilationism: https://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/SN/SN44_10.html No, it doesnt show that at all. This passage is very clear: "If I—being asked by Vacchagotta the...
- Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:21 pm
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Identity View
- Replies: 62
- Views: 5280
Re: Identity View
From the Phena Sutta: "Form is like a glob of foam; feeling, a bubble; perception, a mirage; fabrications, a banana tree; consciousness, a magic trick — this has been taught by the Kinsman of the Sun. However you observe them, appropriately examine them, they're empty, void to whoever sees them...
- Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:41 pm
- Forum: General Theravāda discussion
- Topic: Kamma and intention
- Replies: 31
- Views: 736
- Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:35 pm
- Forum: Lounge
- Topic: Your Dhamma Verses Here.
- Replies: 15
- Views: 698
Re: Your Dhamma Verses Here.
"Form is only emptiness, emptiness only form."
- The Heart Sutra
- The Heart Sutra
- Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:14 pm
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Identity View
- Replies: 62
- Views: 5280
Re: Identity View
The teaching is that there are mental objects and forms and that they are without a self / they are no self (anatta) and anicca and dukkha. The teaching is that the senses are all there is, and the senses are empty of self. The teaching is that a "being" is just a convention, and that the...