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by Coëmgenu
Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:30 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Mahashi [and other Satipatthana/Samadhi development methods] vs sutta [and contemplating higher teachings] (explained) -
Replies: 176
Views: 1416

Re: Mahashi [and other Satipatthana/Samadhi development methods] vs sutta [and contemplating higher teachings] (explaine

I wish you well too and respect you for been one of the few here who DO study the canon. Unfortunately, just like other before you in this thread, you are good at asking questions cause that is something anybody can do. But when asked a question yourself, such as the green question, you had to retr...
by Coëmgenu
Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:00 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Is this world a product of my own mind ?
Replies: 40
Views: 341

Re: Is this world a product of my own mind ?

Yes and no. This is only my own thinking (although I would hope to think that Buddhism has come to inform my thinking), but the answer is yes and no, with no only being a possibility depending on your metaphysics. Yes, the world, is mind-made because the world is perceived exclusively through the mi...
by Coëmgenu
Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:50 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Most common blindspot of buddhist practitioners ?
Replies: 18
Views: 303

Re: Most common blindspot of buddhist practitioners ?

I submitted other, because IMO, even more of a common blind spot among Buddhists is not actually following the teaching, just learning about various facets of the teaching, and not actually practicing anything. I myself, on occasion, am a bit of an "armchair Dhamma-theorist" (a term adapte...
by Coëmgenu
Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:45 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Mahashi [and other Satipatthana/Samadhi development methods] vs sutta [and contemplating higher teachings] (explained) -
Replies: 176
Views: 1416

Re: Mahashi [and other Satipatthana/Samadhi development methods] vs sutta [and listening to discourses] (explained) -

not only will I go to hell, but nobody on this forum will ever like me again, seen what strong reactions criticism of Buddhaghosa produces. Tbh i would be cosidering this very seriously.I belive any Ariya would aswell 1. Splitting Sangha guarantees Apaya rebirth 2. Thinking badly of people, let alo...
by Coëmgenu
Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:10 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Mahashi [and other Satipatthana/Samadhi development methods] vs sutta [and contemplating higher teachings] (explained) -
Replies: 176
Views: 1416

Re: Mahashi vs sutta (explained)

Part 3: Some words about Buddhaghosa I would also like to add that the technique was developed in the 19th century in Bruma and is based on Visuddhimagga. Visuddhimagga was written 1000 years after the Buddha by an ex-hindu person, Buddhaghosa. Buddhaghosa did not understand buddhism too much, proo...
by Coëmgenu
Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:12 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Mahashi [and other Satipatthana/Samadhi development methods] vs sutta [and contemplating higher teachings] (explained) -
Replies: 176
Views: 1416

Re: Mahashi [and other Satipatthana/Samadhi development methods] vs sutta [and listening to discourses] (explained) -

Twilight wrote:Yes, it is definitely better to be taught by one who knows how to explain things. And one who does not make people defensive because of using an aggresive style of speech like me for example.
(bolding added)

Well at least you admit it :tongue:
by Coëmgenu
Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:19 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Mahashi [and other Satipatthana/Samadhi development methods] vs sutta [and contemplating higher teachings] (explained) -
Replies: 176
Views: 1416

Re: Mahashi vs sutta (explained)

That is exactly what is proclaimed in the Satipatthana Sutta! And i am very interested in your interpretation. If you don't want to quote the entirety of what someone says, it is probably good practice to indicate edits that one is making, in the case of deletions, with a "[...]", because...
by Coëmgenu
Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:00 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravāda & Nāgārjuna
Replies: 230
Views: 1927

Re: Theravāda & Nāgārjuna

There was very possibly, then, one original Nagarjuna, but to him was added a legend which ramified. This legend, in turn, inspired the adoption of the name of Nagarjuna by many later texts written at different times, and likely also by some later teachers in the tantric tradition. http://www.theze...
by Coëmgenu
Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:56 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravāda & World-Systems
Replies: 4
Views: 132

Re: Theravāda & World-Systems

Buddhist cosmology and the stories of the suttas always have a historical, a mythical and a psychological element to them. When we talk about the Buddha under the bodhi tree, we sometimes wonder, “Was it actually that tree? Are we sure that he really sat beside the river Nerañjara near Bodhgaya? Ho...
by Coëmgenu
Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:26 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravāda & Nāgārjuna
Replies: 230
Views: 1927

Re: Theravāda & Nāgārjuna

Great posts, thank you for the lucid explanations. Despite all of that, isn't it true that Nagarjuna does not ascribe inherency or existence to Nirvana? Nāgārjuna does not ascribe inherency to hypostatizations of Nibbāna, which includes almost all views and inferences that one can try to make about...
by Coëmgenu
Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:31 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theravāda & World-Systems
Replies: 4
Views: 132

Theravāda & World-Systems

Split from thread : " Theravāda & Nāgārjuna " If earth has a permanent quality of being earth and cannot vanish into nothing, then that makes the earth element permanent. Something that cannot cease is permanent, and this is contrary to the Buddha's fundamental insight that all condit...
by Coëmgenu
Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:30 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravāda & Nāgārjuna
Replies: 230
Views: 1927

Re: Theravāda & Nāgārjuna

Because they are hypostatizations of themselves in the minds of the practitioner, which is the context of the quote in question. Let me put it another way, since the Nāgārjuna view favours Nibbana. Samsara is always hypostatization. There can be no samsara without hypostatization. Therefore samsara...
by Coëmgenu
Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:22 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravāda & Nāgārjuna
Replies: 230
Views: 1927

Re: Theravāda & Nāgārjuna

Because they are hypostatizations of themselves in the minds of the practitioner. Exactly, which is how this thread was originally responded to & why Nāgārjuna's idea of Nirvana is probably wrong. Nibbana is the end of greed, hatred & delusion. What it actually is is 100% unrelated to its c...
by Coëmgenu
Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:07 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravāda & Nāgārjuna
Replies: 230
Views: 1927

Re: Theravāda & Nāgārjuna

In short, anything that is conditioned is considered not Nibbāna in the text, including "conceptions of Nibbāna", which are mental formations, not Nibbāna itself. So why did Nāgārjuna say samsara & Nirvana are the same. Because they are hypostatizations of themselves in the minds of t...
by Coëmgenu
Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:54 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravāda & Nāgārjuna
Replies: 230
Views: 1927

Re: Theravāda & Nāgārjuna

Great posts, thank you for the lucid explanations. Despite all of that, isn't it true that Nagarjuna does not ascribe inherency or existence to Nirvana? Nāgārjuna does not ascribe inherency to hypostatizations of Nibbāna, which includes almost all views and inferences that one can try to make about...
by Coëmgenu
Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:49 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravāda & Nāgārjuna
Replies: 230
Views: 1927

Re: Theravāda & Nāgārjuna

AN 10.61, you just quoted it. If you were accurate, it establishes ignorance as without cause, hence ignorance cannot have arisen out of "original Nibbána" because there is no principal cause (AN 10.61?) for the arising of ignorance. According to the apparent content of the Buddhavacana (...
by Coëmgenu
Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:32 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravāda & Nāgārjuna
Replies: 230
Views: 1927

Re: Theravāda & Nāgārjuna

... it is established in the Buddhavacana... You seem to be imagining things again. I am the poster posting Buddhavacana & you are the poster posting unsubstantiated imaginings or folk stories. Please post the Buddhavacana being referred to support your position. Thanks AN 10.61, you just quote...
by Coëmgenu
Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:19 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravāda & Nāgārjuna
Replies: 230
Views: 1927

Re: Theravāda & Nāgārjuna

And this subforum on it is called "Connections to Other Paths". OK. I am sorry. Unlike some, I am not an expert into cultural-Marxist bureaucracies. Accusations of Marxism is the American equivalent of reducio ad hitlerum. And I'll stick with the Dhamma, suttas included, thank you. OK..pl...
by Coëmgenu
Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:51 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: No Creator in Buddhism
Replies: 95
Views: 763

Re: No Creator in Buddhism

"Has" denotes possession, which denotes the conditions you listed, attachment to, craving for, desiring of, etc. "Has" does not exclusively mean "being/is comprised of ". Nice defensive play with words. "Possession" ( paṭilābho ) means the mind takes possessi...
by Coëmgenu
Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:49 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravāda & Nāgārjuna
Replies: 230
Views: 1927

Re: Theravāda & Nāgārjuna

Some Tibetan tantric teachings speculate (by alleged relation from Buddhas) that there was an "original enlightenment/original Nibbána", before causes and conditions of samsara arose, but I've never been convinced of their claims. My understanding is this is a Theravada forum. And this su...

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